Legal pitch?

[kblump]

Fed rule set. Pitcher places her pivot foot heel on the plate, non-pivot foot toes on the plate. As she starts forward, she moves to the ball of her pivot foot to push off, but the ball of her foot is 3-4 inches in front of the plate due to how she intially placed her feet. That is the position of her feet at the time of release. Even though her intial foot placement is legal, I feel the pitch is illegal since she is pushing off from in front of the plate.

Legal or illegal?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by kblump

Fed rule set. Pitcher places her pivot foot heel on the plate, non-pivot foot toes on the plate. As she starts forward, she moves to the ball of her pivot foot to push off, but the ball of her foot is 3-4 inches in front of the plate due to how she intially placed her feet. That is the position of her feet at the time of release. Even though her intial foot placement is legal, I feel the pitch is illegal since she is pushing off from in front of the plate.

Legal or illegal?

Technically, illegal. In practice, allowed. I can't cite you anything on the latter, however. I'm interested to read other's views on this.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by kblump

Fed rule set. Pitcher places her pivot foot heel on the plate, non-pivot foot toes on the plate. As she starts forward, she moves to the ball of her pivot foot to push off, but the ball of her foot is 3-4 inches in front of the plate due to how she intially placed her feet. That is the position of her feet at the time of release. Even though her intial foot placement is legal, I feel the pitch is illegal since she is pushing off from in front of the plate.

Legal or illegal?

Isn't the position of the feet at the time of the release considerably nearer to home plate than that? She's pushing forward and not releasing the pitch until near the end of her forward movement if she's a normal pitcher. I'm not sure I'd even go so far as to say this is technically illegal but I'd love to hear more thoughts on it too. (If you start calling this you'll be groundbreaking in a bad way)

[Ed Maeder]

As was already stated technically illegal. (6-1-2c) "Pushing off with the pivot foot from a place other than the pitcher's plate is illegal."

[RKBUmp]

Is she moving her pivot foot further forward as she starts her motion? Or is she simply breaking contact with the pitching plate with her heel as she pushes off?

[kblump]

She does not pick up her entire for nor slide it forward, she simply lifts her heel and starts her push off the "plate" from that point. As I said, once she lifts her heel, the ball of her foot is a few inches in front of the plate.

[RKBUmp]

Originally Posted by kblump

She does not pick up her entire for nor slide it forward, she simply lifts her heel and starts her push off the "plate" from that point. As I said, once she lifts her heel, the ball of her foot is a few inches in front of the plate.

Then it is a completely legal pitch. If her feet are in a legal position to start she is in fact pushing off from the pitching plate even though her heel lifts off.

[BlueDevilRef]

3-4 inches? Sounds like a replant to me and illegal.