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Old Mon Apr 04, 2016, 10:32am
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I'm not sure I would accept the coach's question as a valid appeal.

It sounds as if he's not sure and he wants to know what I saw. If I tell him that the runner did not touch the plate, have I coached the coach?

I need to hear from him that he definitely thinks the runner did not touch the plate and he is appealing that. I can also allow for the fact that I would consider his voice inflection and body language in him asking the question to make it a valid appeal.
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How about "You will have to appeal for me to be able to answer"?
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OOO. If he didn't question it, he wouldn't ask. After all, an appeal is a request. The definition of request includes "asking" a question.
My first thought was like Andy's. He's asking if the runner missed, not saying the runner missed and asking for an appeal. My second thought was like Mike's... the book does not specify a magic word or phrase, only that it is clear what he is appealing. If you're unsure, nothing wrong with Cecil's suggestion, or even more directly, "Coach, are you making an appeal?"

In real life, I would accept what the coach said as an appeal. No need to play word games.
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Old Mon Apr 04, 2016, 10:35am
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In real life, I would accept what the coach said as an appeal. No need to play word games.
Indeed. You are just making the process take longer by asking him to rephrase it. If she had touched the plate, would you ask him to rephrase or would you simply say "Yes"?

It's obvious he wants an out. Rule on the appeal.
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Old Mon Apr 04, 2016, 01:01pm
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When a catcher wants you to check with your partner on a checked swing, isn't that an appeal? And doesn't she usually ask you, "Blue, did she go?" Or do you make her say, "Blue, I appeal that the batter offered at the pitch"?
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Old Mon Apr 04, 2016, 04:39pm
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When a catcher wants you to check with your partner on a checked swing, isn't that an appeal? And doesn't she usually ask you, "Blue, did she go?" Or do you make her say, "Blue, I appeal that the batter offered at the pitch"?
That is not an "appeal" in the sense of a missed base or plate.
But I agree with your concept.
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