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EsqUmp Sun Oct 18, 2015 08:01pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 968125)
Please cite where I made any statement to that point or even offered a modicum of indication that would lead to your question.

When you asked why he would go if he already judged it not to be a swing. That happens everytime a pitch is a ball. When else would you go?!

Umpteenth Mon Oct 19, 2015 08:19am

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 968128)
When you asked why he would go if he already judged it not to be a swing. That happens every time a pitch is a ball. When else would you go?!

If the umpire judged a batter had not swung, and the defense (catcher) asked the umpire to go for help, the umpire should do so. However, as stated in the OP, it as the OFFENSE making the request to go for help. No need to go for help, it was judged a No Swing.

Dakota Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:50pm

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 968100)
Help me understand your position here, please.

Nothing in this thread suggests even minimal doubt by the umpire. Why do you keep implying there is? A coach wanted a prayer; it was denied. No one else seems to think that the umpire needs to answer that prayer.

Or is this just your apparent need to disagree with anything or anyone (even formerly) you associate with ASA? And/or specifically Mike/IrishMafia. Your continual efforts seem to indicate that.

I believe I speak for those of us that just want to discuss softball umpire officiating, I just want to know if you intend to offer the benefit of your knowledge and experience, or simply snipe at ASA/Mike. I, for one, believe you have plenty to offer, even as a contrarian, but you are losing any credibility with these pointless attacks.

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Tru_in_Blu Mon Oct 19, 2015 02:28pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 968168)
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ditto

CecilOne Mon Oct 19, 2015 04:10pm

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 968127)
I was asked if I was suggesting to go for help everytime the batter moved the bat forward. That's an absurd accusation, so I addressed it.

The original fact pattern is moot as to the likelihood of actual doubt, so I addressed it.

I merely bring up the point that umpires think that they can't go on their own and some play this " Mother, May I?" game while a real game is being played and being affected.

Sorry you're reading into it more than I'm addressing, especially when you stated exactly what I was getting at yourself.

Whew! I don't get this one at all, including "moot", Esq. ;) :) :p


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