Forum: Basketball
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:10pm
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Forum: Basketball
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:09pm
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Replies: 97
Views: 18,444
I still don't agree
The FED does not want a defender to be able to straddle the sideline or end line to cut off the offense. That's why they came up with the case play several years ago. They figured we don't allow...
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Forum: Basketball
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:22am
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Replies: 97
Views: 18,444
That's how some read it
There is nothing in the case play that indicates that player is moving. This is an assumption made by some based on the reasoning that the play involves guarding a player. However, you can be...
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Forum: Basketball
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:53am
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Replies: 25
Views: 4,050
I dont like this bylaw
Although I agree our society is way too litigious, there is still a need for civil lawsuits. An association that expels its members for exercising a constitutional right is troubling to me. Does...
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Forum: Softball
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 07:08am
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Replies: 12
Views: 2,252
Agreed
Your point has some merit. Having said that I still don't use it. There are three reasons.
1. I don't like giving up my responsibilities to another umpire. Its not an ego thing, its a "do...
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Forum: Softball
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:39am
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Replies: 12
Views: 2,252
In FED
FED has a mechanic where you can go for help in this situation. However, I don't like that mechanic and I don't use it. I prefer to make the call and then go for help if asked. I agree with Mike...
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Forum: Softball
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:18am
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
True but...
There are plenty of rule violations, (and going back to touch a base they are not entitled to is a rules violation), that we don't rule on until requested to.
BOO for instance. This is a rules...
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Forum: Softball
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:53am
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
So why be different
Why do we not prevent anything that is illegal by rule? Why not prevent, not physically but verbally (i.e. "No, number 24, you can't return to 1b"), a runner returning to a base that by rule she may...
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Forum: Softball
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:23pm
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
Ok, true, I misspoke or mistyped!
She is in jeopardy because she left early BUT is still in jeopardy because the retouch was illegal.
The point I am making is there are other things that are illegal to do that we don't prevent. ...
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Forum: Softball
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:20pm
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
What?
And my remarks meant nothing to you?!?!?!?!? :(
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Forum: Softball
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:19pm
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
That's my point
Right, the award is given after allowing the runner to complete their base running responsibilities. The dead ball is immediately after the ball enters DBT.
I'm applying the same logic to an...
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Forum: Softball
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:15pm
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
wow!
Usually when I see Steve has replied after me in a thread I open it with a little mixture of fear and trepidation knowing that he is going to tell me I'm wrong. Imagine my surprise when Steve...
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Forum: Softball
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:39am
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
yes it is
Actually the rule book says the exact opposite. It says "She may not return".
I interpret "May not return" as being illegal as in "May not return to touch a base missed or left too soon on a caught...
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Forum: Softball
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:18am
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
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Forum: Softball
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:35am
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
I understand your position. There are two...
I understand your position. There are two theories on this. One is as you state: don't let the coach make an illegal substitution.
However, what if he is insistent on making the sub even if...
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Forum: Softball
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:13am
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
I've not been told that
I've been told to inform the coach in a subtle way that he can't do that but that if he insists allow it. For example: "Coach, do you really want to do that? Are you sure?" The reasoning is the...
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Forum: Softball
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:06am
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Replies: 36
Views: 5,508
Probably
Probably. However, the difference is that the Batter never became a batter-runner on a D3K when the D3K is not in effect. She is a retired batter. If this is how ASA wants it then they need to...
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Forum: Softball
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:20pm
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Replies: 36
Views: 5,508
Not by definition
A Retired Batter Runner never becomes a retired runner. In order to be a retired runner, they first have to be a runner. A runner is an "offensive player who has reached first base AND has not yet...
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Forum: Softball
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:37pm
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
Good Points
All are very good points. Since there is possibility for an out, I'm treating this as an appeal and not give anything away.
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Forum: Softball
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:31pm
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
Were's the fun in that! :)
The rule book also clearly states that this is brought up as a protest by the offended team. You don't rule proactively on protests. As umpires we wait until they are brought to our "attention".
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Forum: Softball
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:10pm
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
You Mean Like
9.1. Protests...
A. Misinterpretation of a playing rule....
B. Illegal Player
C. Ineligible Player
No where is an unreported sub listed as a protest in 9.1. In the definition and in rule 9.1...
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Forum: Softball
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:21am
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
Poor choice of words on ASA's part
The rule book says protest but it is not really a protest. A protest by definition is a formal request to review an umpires rule interpretation. This is an appeal its just not called that by ASA.
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Forum: Softball
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:53am
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Replies: 10
Views: 2,521
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Forum: Softball
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:30am
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Replies: 56
Views: 7,019
Yes it does in my opinion
You are preventing the defense from getting an out. If R1 misses 2nd base, we don't tell her to go back and touch 2nd. We don't give a way that she missed 2nd. Same situation. Both are appeal...
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Forum: Softball
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:04am
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Replies: 10
Views: 2,521
And furthermore
In ASA she can stand on the fence and catch it for an out! In FED she can't.
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