Forum: Basketball
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:04am
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The Oddest Signal ...
I just realized that my statement, "Palming, or carrying, is when the ball comes to rest in the player's hand, and the player either travels with the ball, or dribbles an illegal second (double)...
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Forum: Basketball
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:40pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
It Was A Dark And Stormy Night ...
4.15.4 SITUATION D: While dribbling: (a) A1 bats the ball over the head of an
opponent, runs around the opponent, bats the ball to the floor and continues to
dribble; RULING: Violation in (a),...
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Forum: Basketball
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:31pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Stupid NFHS ...
Got any additional historical information? Timeline? Why removed (probably because it's not an actual violation)? Why, once removed, put back (officials revolt)?
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Forum: Basketball
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:21pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Palming (Carrying) Is Just A Signal ...
Palming (carrying) is not an actual violation, it is just a signal. Sometimes the actual violation is a travel. Sometimes the actual violation is an illegal dribble.
Here's the only mention of...
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Forum: Basketball
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:04pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Not A Travel ...
So I was right, it's not a travel. right?
Stupid caseplay. Stupid NFHS.
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Forum: Basketball
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:48pm
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Replies: 52
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Theoretically Speaking ...
4.15.1 SITUATION C is an excellent citation stating that the start of a dribble is the same as a dribble.
4.15.1 SITUATION C: A1 attempts a pass to A2 during pressing action in A’s backcourt. The...
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Forum: Basketball
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:16pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Questions, And More Questions ...
4.44.3 SITUATION D: A1 throws the ball over the head of B1 and then takes several steps before catching it. RULING: ...a traveling violation in ... since the ball did not touch the floor, the tossing...
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Forum: Basketball
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:03pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Citations ...
4.44.3 SITUATION D: (a) A1 tosses the ball from one hand to the other while
keeping his/her pivot foot in contact with the floor; or (b) A1 throws the ball over
the head of B1 and then takes...
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Forum: Basketball
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 06:10am
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Additional Casebook Play ...
Is it 4.15.1 SITUATION C, or is there an additional casebook play? Another casebook play would be swell, said the Beaver to Wally.
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Forum: Basketball
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 06:03am
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Trust But Verify ...
I know that both of these statements are 100% true, but I can't find a citation for either.
Where does it state that stationary player may toss the ball into the air and catch it?
Where does...
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Forum: Basketball
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 05:49am
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Touched Twice Before Touches Floor ...
4.15.4 SITUATION D: While dribbling: (a) A1 bats the ball over the head of an
opponent, runs around the opponent, bats the ball to the floor and continues to
dribble; RULING: Violation in (a),...
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Forum: Basketball
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 05:37am
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Floor ...
ART. 4 A ball which touches a player or an official is the same as the ball
touching the floor at that individual’s location.
ART. 5 A ball which touches the front faces or edges of the backboard...
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Forum: Basketball
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 05:33am
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Conclusion ???
I definitely recall the thread. I don't recall a consensus, or conclusion, based on language from 4.15.1 SITUATION C.
Now, where are my keys?
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Forum: Basketball
Mon Jul 09, 2018, 10:24pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
The Holy Grail ...
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.E56c0d40lTRQJjgdZjjbcAHaDP&pid=15.1&P=0&w=409&h=179
(Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, 1989)
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Forum: Basketball
Mon Jul 09, 2018, 10:08pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Not A Guru, But Still, No Complaints From Me ...
4.15.1 SITUATION C: A1 attempts a pass to A2 during pressing action in A’s
backcourt. The ball hits B’s backboard and deflects directly back to A1 who catches
the ball and: (a) passes the ball to...
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Forum: Basketball
Mon Jul 09, 2018, 06:02pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Practical Application ...
It doesn't feel right, but by rule you may be correct, but by practical application, most times we should wait to confirm that it's not the start of a bounce pass.
This rule could be better...
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Forum: Basketball
Mon Jul 09, 2018, 05:55pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Guesswork ...
Not waiting, in many cases, but probably not all, is paramount to just plain old ordinary guessing, and we as officials, try to avoid guessing as much as we possibly can.
Not many of us carry a...
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Forum: Basketball
Mon Jul 09, 2018, 05:52pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
The Great Debate ...
Example, or citation please (would prefer an example).
Not to be argumentative, but for the good of the cause.
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Forum: Basketball
Mon Jul 09, 2018, 05:49pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Got My Back ...
Thanks, fixed it.
44-3-C: The pivot foot may not be lifted before the ball is released, to start a dribble.
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Forum: Basketball
Mon Jul 09, 2018, 06:06am
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
If It's Not Legal, It's Illegal ...
Doesn't the chicken have to lay an egg before the egg can be deemed illegal? Doesn't it have to be a dribble for it to be an illegal dribble? For a player to dribble illegally, doesn't he have to...
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Forum: Basketball
Mon Jul 09, 2018, 05:46am
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Break Out The Ouija Board ...
It's just that sometimes the start of a pass (especially a bounce pass), and the start of a dribble, may look exactly the same. Context clues (with experience) are certainly of value, but sometimes...
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Forum: Basketball
Sun Jul 08, 2018, 11:07pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Hit The Floor ...
Agree, maybe it was the start of a pass, but this thread deals with whether, or not, the ball has to actually hit the floor for there to be a dribble (I think it doesn't).
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Forum: Basketball
Sun Jul 08, 2018, 10:56pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Mind Readers ...
Disagree, maybe not in theory, but in practice. The start of a dribble and the start of a pass may legally look exactly the same, and until officials have the ability read a player's mind (intent) we...
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Forum: Basketball
Sun Jul 08, 2018, 10:42pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Start Of Dribble Equals Dribble ...
Play A: A1 ends his dribble, intentionally throws the ball in the air, runs several feet, and catches the ball that hasn't touched the floor.
I was thinking along the same line (similar, but not...
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Forum: Basketball
Sat Jul 07, 2018, 12:37pm
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Replies: 52
Views: 3,841
Similarity ...
Do my questions (above post) have any similarity to past Forum discussions involving the following:
When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the...
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