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Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 11:24pm
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Posted By rwest
By rule you have to wait 20 seconds before the...

By rule you have to wait 20 seconds before the next pitch. However, the 10 second time for the batter to get into the box will expire first, so you'll never get to the 20 seconds. And by rule you...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 04:55pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
But the pitcher can't pitch during a suspension...

But the pitcher can't pitch during a suspension of play and so the 20 second count can't start. So lets assume you call play ball while the BR is out of the box (which I still don't believe is...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 04:49pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
I agree

It's not covered but neither is calling the BR out for not advancing since nothing in 8-2 is applicable. I don't believe you can make the ball live until you have a batter. I don't in any other...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 03:56pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
So you are saying that you are going to make the...

So you are saying that you are going to make the ball live without a batter in the box? When a coach calls time, when do you make the ball live? I wait until the batter is in the box. One mistake...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 03:51pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
Yes

And you can't reach the time of the next pitch unless the ball is live. You aren't going to make the ball live unitl you have a batter in the box. So you can't just wait the 20 seconds the pitcher...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 03:37pm
Replies: 68
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Posted By rwest
We are just going to have to agree to disagree

I don't believe the case play is on point. Nothing in the case play has happened in the OP. It doesn't provide us with any solution to this problem. She hasn't left the field of play, the defense...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 03:34pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
Based on what rule and what rule set? In Fed you...

Based on what rule and what rule set? In Fed you can't get an out unless she fails to advance before a) the next pitch, b) she has left the field of play or C) the infielders have left the diamond. ...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 03:17pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
What ASA rule reference do you have to support...

What ASA rule reference do you have to support that statment? Not saying I disagree or that your are wrong. I'd just like to read them myself. As far as NFHS, I'm still having a problem with your...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 02:18pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
The case play doesn't say there was a next pitch....

The case play doesn't say there was a next pitch. It just gives us the time frame in which the BR can advance to first base. In the OP none of this applies. There was no next pitch. The BR did...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 02:15pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
First of all the batter has 10 seconds to get...

First of all the batter has 10 seconds to get into the batters box. So, that time will expire before the time the pitcher has to pitch will. The on deck batter may not know she is due up anyway...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 02:03pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
As quoted it does...

The phrase "The batter-runner fails to advance to first base and enters the team area" applies to everything that follows. The case play does not say if she doesn't advance she is out. She did...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 01:08pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
But these don't apply

The BR never entered dead ball territory so 8-2-4 doesn't apply. Case Play 8.1.1-A part 1 also doesn't apply for the same reason, she didn't enter dead ball territory. Part 2 doesn't seem a likely...
Forum: Softball Fri Mar 13, 2009, 12:32pm
Replies: 68
Views: 4,605
Posted By rwest
Can we...

Can we not get in the slot, put the ball back in play, hold up the pitcher from pitching and then in a loud voice say "Batter, that was a dropped third strike" and then just stand there staring at...
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