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Forum: Basketball Thu Dec 02, 2010, 06:39pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam ???? And?? ???? And??

Forum: Basketball Thu Dec 02, 2010, 08:31am

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Yep, and by the logic of that interp, this would... Yep, and by the logic of that interp, this would be a travel regardless of who recovers the fumble. By that logic, it would be a travel if airborne A1's shot attempt was prevented from being...

Forum: Basketball Thu Dec 02, 2010, 08:28am

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Now that I'm actually reading the case play, I... Now that I'm actually reading the case play, I see that 4.44.3A isn't applicable at all. It involves a defender hitting the ball, so the "fumble" question isn't addressed in this case. As Nevada...

Forum: Basketball Thu Dec 02, 2010, 08:24am

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Because of this, for one thing. The... Because of this, for one thing. The player stopped before he jumped. If it's a jump stop, you're right. No travel regardless of the momentary release of the ball; which I've already stated.

Forum: Basketball Thu Dec 02, 2010, 08:20am

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam If you've been assuming all along it's a jump... If you've been assuming all along it's a jump stop, that's different. Based on the OP's assumption that if it wasn't a fumble, it was a travel, I'm not considering a jump stop on this play.

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 09:28pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Or be during the lost control; and it doesn't... Or be during the lost control; and it doesn't have to be an opponent.

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 09:23pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Nope. Nope.

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 09:23pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam You're hung up on the fact that it was a try; it... You're hung up on the fact that it was a try; it doesn't matter. He could have jumped to pass, it's the same thing. You're not looking at the right rule; read the case play. By your logic, 4.44.3A...

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 08:04pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Good point, thanks. Good point, thanks.

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 07:37pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam No, it's not. That said, I noticed that our... No, it's not. That said, I noticed that our Twinfan is from Canada. That means he might be commenting from a more, uh, metric perspective. Perhaps this play is ruled differently in metric rules.

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 07:32pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam And you're wrong. And you're wrong.

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 07:31pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Wrong, the fumble changes everything. Wrong, the fumble changes everything.

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 06:03pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam The case play here is 4.44.3D, which when read in... The case play here is 4.44.3D, which when read in concert with 4.44.3A tells you it's a travel if the player jumps to shoot, intentionally releases the ball, then catches it before it hits the floor....

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 06:02pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are... I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying if the player fumbles the try, it would still be a travel if he catches it and lands? The fumble absolutely means everything here.

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:57pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam The point of that rule is that a "try" ends when... The point of that rule is that a "try" ends when the ball hits the floor. IOW, if A1 launches a shot from half court just before the horn, the basket cannot count if it bounces in. The same holds...

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:52pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Really? So A1 makes a try for goal. It hits... Really? So A1 makes a try for goal. It hits the rim, and B1 gets the rebound. Knowing that player or team control do not exist during a try, are you still saying the try is still ongoing after...

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:51pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Look at it this way, if the play would have been... Look at it this way, if the play would have been legal without the momentary release of the ball, it's legal. If it would have been illegal without the momentary release of the ball, it's still...

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:50pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam Think this through for a second. Do all tries... Think this through for a second. Do all tries end by hitting the floor or with a dead ball?

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:47pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam 1. A1 throws a lob pass towards A2. 2. A2... 1. A1 throws a lob pass towards A2. 2. A2 doesn't see the pass and cuts towards the basket. 3. A1 runs to retrieve pass before it hits the floor. Call?

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:39pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam They're travels for different reasons. In the... They're travels for different reasons. In the case play, it's a travel for lifting the pivot foot before starting a dribble. In the OP (assuming purposeful release) it's a travel for jumping and...

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:19pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam No problem. Also note, if the player had used... No problem. Also note, if the player had used his dribble, he cannot dribble again unless <strike>the defense</strike> another player touched the ball while it was loose or caused it to come loose.

Forum: Basketball Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:17pm

Replies: 74 Travel? Loss of Possession? Views: 5,230 Posted By Adam If you think it was a fumble, no violation. If... If you think it was a fumble, no violation. If you think it was a try for goal, no violation. If you think he purposefully let it go and grabbed it, travel. Note, a defensive touch is not...

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