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Forum: Basketball Sun Feb 01, 2015, 10:51am

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Apologies for the sarcasm. It was to be directed... Apologies for the sarcasm. It was to be directed at the rules themselves. Not the guys that enforce them (or take their time to try to explain them). Thanks again. I've learned a lot and will...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 10:39pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Dang it. I came back. I thought the defender... Dang it. I came back. I thought the defender tried to place his body in the path. But if attacking the ball allows for this contact (including tripping in this case). That's what we should be...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 09:00pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Guys -- I'm checking out now. I sincerely... Guys -- I'm checking out now. I sincerely appreciate the comments and patience. I will save this as a reminder to never become a basketball official and never attempt coaching above the middle...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:48pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Thanks. Not even my best work - lol I use a... Thanks. Not even my best work - lol I use a gopro mounted on the wall. Then use VLC to zoom and slow it down. But then the quality goes down quickly when I record the clip on my cell phone camera...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:42pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Defender 2 in the bottom video isn't required to... Defender 2 in the bottom video isn't required to be in legal guarding position? It may not show on the video, but his elbow is hit by the defender and his leg is kicked out. And the ball barely...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:51pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Exactly. Refs are envisioning what might have... Exactly. Refs are envisioning what might have happened if a player is held/pushed away from the ball. He might have cut to the low block for a layup or he might have just stayed put. Or his...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:41pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo If your still game, here are 2 more that confused... If your still game, here are 2 more that confused me. Especially, in light of some of the stuff I've learned (contact not affecting the outcome type stuff -- I know poorly worded). (I'm trying to...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:29pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo So I'll give it another shot of why I want vid 2... So I'll give it another shot of why I want vid 2 called. (and yes, I missed the obvious ones about foul trouble and foul shots - thanks guys) I'm learning it's wrong, but that defensive player in...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:21pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Thanks Adam, that does help. Thanks Adam, that does help.

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:10pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo This one made me pause. I'm certainly going to... This one made me pause. I'm certainly going to have to give this some thought. I'm pretty sure I didn't know that refs also had to rate the strength of the player. That certainly complicates it.

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:05pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo I sincerely get that I don't understand what... I sincerely get that I don't understand what properly officiated play involves. I'm trying to learn and if I seem sarcastic at times, I apologize. I understand that officiating is a hard job and...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:59pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Great comment, Adam. There was certainly... Great comment, Adam. There was certainly contact. I was right across from it. And I haven't see any 7th graders in our league that can avoid contact with that move. I would like it called so its...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:52pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo What part is hyperbole? Ok, maybe "absolutely... What part is hyperbole? Ok, maybe "absolutely amazed" is. But the defender did hit the dribblers chest. Now the offense has to change their game for the rest of the game to be on guard for this. ...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:44pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo That's really why I started this thread. It's... That's really why I started this thread. It's sloppy 7th grade basketball exacerbated by lots of what looks like illegal contact. If the illegal contact were reduced, we would get less sloppy...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:30pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo I would like to think that I would blow the... I would like to think that I would blow the whistle twice and the players would learn to stop making that move. That's probably wrong (per the rules) and naive. And no one would ever want to work...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:26pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Realize the camera angle is no good, but in video... Realize the camera angle is no good, but in video 2 there was contact. I was directly across from the play. At the age and ability, I don't see how a kid makes that move without contact.

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:24pm

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo On #2, it's frustrating that it's a foul if the... On #2, it's frustrating that it's a foul if the ball comes out and otherwise it's not. When the defense is constantly doing that move, it impacts how the offense attacks. They have to be much more...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 09:53am

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Apologies for not getting the quote feature to... Apologies for not getting the quote feature to work. I'm trying to figure it out. "If we were to call every single time there was any contact or anything mildly questionable the games would...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:51am

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo JeffM, I used to be an "over the back" guy... JeffM, I used to be an "over the back" guy but a forum like this taught me better a few years ago. Those others are good, too. Our failure to success ratio on charges is about 10:1 so I think...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:45am

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo JRutledge, Do you think the talent and... JRutledge, Do you think the talent and fluidity development can be hindered in a very physical game? I'm just wondering if so much contact wasn't allowed, it would allow the players to develop...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:42am

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo AremRed - It almost seems like the dribbler... AremRed - It almost seems like the dribbler isn't protected as much as the shooter? Because if that much contact is made on a shot, it seems like a foul is usually called (video 4 and 5). Or...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:30am

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo APG Thanks for the 4 absolutes. That's helpful... APG Thanks for the 4 absolutes. That's helpful and I will teach those (and pass along to parents). Can you comment on why the defender in video 2 can not be in position and create contact with...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:26am

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo 3 more (if you like videos): video 3: ... 3 more (if you like videos): video 3: What I saw - defender grabbed dribbler's shoulder What did the ref see? (because it was a no call)...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:17am

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Thanks JeffM. Helpful stuff. Not ever... Thanks JeffM. Helpful stuff. Not ever having officiated a real game, I'm at a huge disadvantage and ignorant. I'm also biased for my team. But when I review the video, I see so much contact. ...

Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 31, 2015, 12:51am

Replies: 97 Can Refs Help Improve Youth Play (Videos) Views: 5,693 Posted By ccrroo Thanks - I'm already learning something new. ... Thanks - I'm already learning something new. What are the 4 absolutes on a ball dribbler? It would help if I knew that. Honestly, I'm absolutely amazed that a defender can smack a dribbler...

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