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Old Sun Mar 02, 2014, 02:52am
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Sure Calhoun brought in a lot of money to UCONN but did the taxpayers get any of that money back? Did UCONN take $12 million less taxpayer money because the basketball program covered that? Yeah, didn't think so.
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Old Sun Mar 02, 2014, 03:11pm
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Sure Calhoun brought in a lot of money to UCONN but did the taxpayers get any of that money back? Did UCONN take $12 million less taxpayer money because the basketball program covered that? Yeah, didn't think so.
I think his point was that the basketball program generated a lot more than what he was being paid and that extra revenue was turned back to the school...meaning the taxpayers weren't really paying his salary even though he was technically a state employee. In answer to your question...yes. UConn was probably taking less from the state (at least for the athletics dept.) due to the revenue generated by the mens basketball team.

Regarding MTD's original post...yeah, all those coaches are paid a lot more than other state employees...but from my observation, they are the hardest working state employees there are, regardless of what state we're talking about. Have you been to a DMV lately?
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Old Tue Mar 04, 2014, 02:49pm
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Regarding MTD's original post...yeah, all those coaches are paid a lot more than other state employees...but from my observation, they are the hardest working state employees there are, regardless of what state we're talking about. Have you been to a DMV lately?
They can also be fired from their job a lot easier than most state employees, despite the fact that they are doing what is being asked of them.

It takes a ton of paperwork to fire a guvvie. You have to start with some sort of performance improvement plan that gives the employee notice that there are certain expectations and standards he/she needs to achieve (even though he/she was informed of those expectations and standards when he/she was hired). He/she must also be afforded the opportunity to pursue training to help him/her improve job performance.

Then, the supervisor has to provide periodic counseling to address achievements and shortcomings. For the latter, the supervisor must record incidents where the employee fails to meet the expectations and standards. All of this documentation must be provided to the organizations Human Resources office with all the T's crossed and I's dotted. Even then, it doesn't guarantee a job dismissal. Often, the employee is moved to another office/branch/division, sometimes as a promotion.

Coaches can go virtually undefeated during the regular season, but lose a game or two against a bitter rival or during the post-season, and after a couple of years they are summarily executed.
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Old Tue Mar 04, 2014, 03:09pm
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They can also be fired from their job a lot easier than most state employees, despite the fact that they are doing what is being asked of them.

It takes a ton of paperwork to fire a guvvie. You have to start with some sort of performance improvement plan that gives the employee notice that there are certain expectations and standards he/she needs to achieve (even though he/she was informed of those expectations and standards when he/she was hired). He/she must also be afforded the opportunity to pursue training to help him/her improve job performance.

Then, the supervisor has to provide periodic counseling to address achievements and shortcomings. For the latter, the supervisor must record incidents where the employee fails to meet the expectations and standards. All of this documentation must be provided to the organizations Human Resources office with all the T's crossed and I's dotted. Even then, it doesn't guarantee a job dismissal. Often, the employee is moved to another office/branch/division, sometimes as a promotion.

Coaches can go virtually undefeated during the regular season, but lose a game or two against a bitter rival or during the post-season, and after a couple of years they are summarily executed.
Most people don't continue to get paid for years after they are fired, though.
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Old Tue Mar 04, 2014, 05:59pm
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It also must be noted that boosters pay for a lot of these salaries. So a place like UConn is not generating money from tax payers, they are generating a lot of money from people who want access to the program and that is more than ticket sales. And that does not include all the merchandising and events that generate money for the schools. I understand the initial outrage, but it is usually based off of ignorance of what those people make and what involves in their salary.

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