Playoff scoldings from B. Mauer

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by Rich

See, that's nonsense. A coin hitting the ground doesn't make a referee worse than one that catches the coin. Uniformity for uniformity's sake in areas like this mean some people have way too much time on my hands.

(I catch the coin on a grass field and let it hit on turf. So there.)

Ok, I'm fine putting that one in the 5% of needless garbage, agree that's fairly meaningless. Yea, Bruce has a couple pet peeves. Was speaking more overall.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by scrounge

Ok, I'm fine putting that one in the 5% of needless garbage, agree that's fairly meaningless. Yea, Bruce has a couple pet peeves. Was speaking more overall.

2 officials signaling incomplete is bad advice, too. That means that someone may be signaling that doesn't actually see the ball hit the ground. Or what about when the R needs to decide if the passer's arm is empty or going forward with the ball and signals incomplete -- some other random official needs to start signaling, too?

12 players in the huddle isn't a foul. Sloppy writing.

Perhaps he should have someone write in English rather than in his shorthand.

[CT1]

While I agree with much of the criticism leveled at the Ohio coordinator, at least their officials are getting *some* feedback. That's more than what many areas of the country provide.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Rich

2 officials signaling incomplete is bad advice, too. That means that someone may be signaling that doesn't actually see the ball hit the ground. Or what about when the R needs to decide if the passer's arm is empty or going forward with the ball and signals incomplete -- some other random official needs to start signaling, too?

5, 6 0r 7 officials is PERFECTLY correct, "IF" any, or all 5, 6 or 7 individually determined the pass was, in fact, incomplete. Presuming that any multiple signals, "means that someone may be signaling that doesn't actually see the ball hit the ground" is absolute nonsense. If that were the case there is a much deeper problem to contend with, about the purpose, and proper reason for, signalling.

As for the Referee determining whether a passer's arm was moving forward, or not, for competent officials that is the Referee's call and other officials should look to "the covering official" for guidance BEFORE signalling. If there is disagreement the next step should be consultation and discussion rather than a contradictory signal.

The question is, "Who are you signalling to" and when there is a field clock and a clock operator, your target for the signal is the clock operator because that is the only person who can actually deal with the clock. The objective should ALWAYS be to signal the clock, as acurately as possible, to start, or stop, the clock. EVERYONE else responding to the signal is SECONDARY.

The objective of other officials to REPEAT the initial clock stoppage signal, whether by repeating the incomplete signal or signalling to stop the clock, is for the benefit of the clock operator and the ultimate accuracy of the game clock.

The most perfect, artistic and classic signal THAT NOBODY SEES, in reality, NEVER HAPPENED and doesn't accomplish anything.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ajmc

5, 6 0r 7 officials is PERFECTLY correct, "IF" any, or all 5, 6 or 7 individually determined the pass was, in fact, incomplete. Presuming that any multiple signals, "means that someone may be signaling that doesn't actually see the ball hit the ground" is absolute nonsense. If that were the case there is a much deeper problem to contend with, about the purpose, and proper reason for, signalling.

As for the Referee determining whether a passer's arm was moving forward, or not, for competent officials that is the Referee's call and other officials should look to "the covering official" for guidance BEFORE signalling. If there is disagreement the next step should be consultation and discussion rather than a contradictory signal.

The question is, "Who are you signalling to" and when there is a field clock and a clock operator, your target for the signal is the clock operator because that is the only person who can actually deal with the clock. The objective should ALWAYS be to signal the clock, as acurately as possible, to start, or stop, the clock. EVERYONE else responding to the signal is SECONDARY.

The objective of other officials to REPEAT the initial clock stoppage signal, whether by repeating the incomplete signal or signalling to stop the clock, is for the benefit of the clock operator and the ultimate accuracy of the game clock.

The most perfect, artistic and classic signal THAT NOBODY SEES, in reality, NEVER HAPPENED and doesn't accomplish anything.

I said "may be signaling." Re-read what you wrote.

Quick pass right at the HL. Incomplete. Who else should signal? The R? The U? The BJ? The other wing? To have 2 people signaling we'll end up with 5 signaling just to make sure 2 signal.

Completely unnecessary.