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Old Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:31pm
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breakaway running play down the seam, LJ turns to follow runner and runs into a coach for the offense at the numbers, he flags the coach and continues to officiate the play. Runner scores, LJ tells Referee what infraction the penalty flag is for. Referee gives preliminary signal, defensive coach accepts penalty and it is enforced from the spot of the foul. Offense scored a few plays later, and it didn't change the outcome of the game. Question is only a USL foul allows the score ? correct ?
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:55am
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Newbie football guy but...

In NFHS penalties for unsportsmanlike conduct fouls are always enforced from the succeeding spot.

I'm pretty sure all nonplayer fouls in NCAA are all enforced from the succeeding spot.

Score should count, enforce from succeeding spot, either try or kickoff at option of offended team.
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2014, 12:44pm
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What could "the spot of the foul" possibly mean on a penalty against a coach? In any rule set?
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2014, 12:58pm
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Exclamation Not Taunting

Per rule 10.4.8 this is not taunting, but " Unintentional contact between a nonplayer and an official in the restricted area while the ball is live." The penalty for which is "Unintentional contact with a game official in the restricted area. Nonplayer foul (Art. 8) – (S38; 29). For the first offense, 15 yards from the succeeding spot. For the second offense (S38- 29- 47) – 15 yards from the succeeding spot and disqualification of the head coach."
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2014, 01:18pm
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Score should have counted and then penalty could/would have been accepted on the try or kickoff.

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Old Tue Oct 21, 2014, 01:36pm
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runs into a coach for the offense at the numbers
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Unintentional contact between a nonplayer and an official in the restricted area
I've never seen numbers in the restricted area. How did we get a post entitled "Taunting" out of this topic?

Coach is on the field- 9-6-4a indicates it is Illegal Participation for a. When any player, replaced player, substitute, coach, athletic trainer or other attendant enters and participates during a down. . Live ball foul-basic spot
If the non-players participation has an influence on play., IP should be ruled.

Its unsportsmanlike (9-8-1 for) i. Being on the field except as a substitute or replaced player, this a non-player foul and would be assessed from the succeeding spot. Given in the OP enforcement was from the spot of the foul, then IP was apparently ruled.

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Old Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:36pm
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In NCAA this is an unfair act and theoretically could be penalized with whatever the Referee deemed equitable. The standard treatment seems to be treat as a deadball foul and enforce from the succeeding spot.
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