Helping the runner

[HLin NC]

Amanda Clearcreek and Ron Hinton would not agree with you at all.

"Nevah heard of 'em"- props to the QCB on WFNZ

[bigjohn]

It is an Ohio thing, Ron is a big Boy and he threw a fit when HTR was called on his team in the state finals, over ten years ago.

It is hilarious if you saw it! He made a spectecal of himself and got a 2 or 3 game suspension!




Each of the clips show this!
offensive player is in
direct contact with the runner and deliberately attempting to move him forward

[CT1]

From the replies thus far, I don't think you'll have to worry about having this called for or against you, John.

Well, maybe against.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Each of the clips show this!
offensive player is in
direct contact with the runner and deliberately attempting to move him forward

And according to interpretation in Ohio, if the runner is part of a pile it's legal.

Do you deny that the powers that be in Ohio have said that pushing the pile is legal?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by asdf

And according to interpretation in Ohio, if the runner is part of a pile it's legal.

Do you deny that the powers that be in Ohio have said that pushing the pile is legal?

John has no idea. He's read no interpretations (and when we post them here he argues with them). He's attended no clinics, sat in no rooms after games with other officials, driven home discussing plays with no officials, etc.

He has a rulebook, and thinks that's enough.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

John has no idea. He's read no interpretations (and when we post them here he argues with them). He's attended no clinics, sat in no rooms after games with other officials, driven home discussing plays with no officials, etc.

He has a rulebook, and thinks that's enough.

That is why I love guys that coach that come to officiating and they realize how hard it is to do what we do. Or they realize how ignorant they were about things that took place from our side of the field. And I respect the time coaches put into the game to become better, but they have no idea the hours we put in to learn the game and the rules.

Peace

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is why I love guys that coach that come to officiating and they realize how hard it is to do what we do. Or they realize how ignorant they were about things that took place from our side of the field. And I respect the time coaches put into the game to become better, but they have no idea the hours we put in to learn the game and the rules.

Peace

We've often stated in our association that at least the HC should officiate 1 year. Then they might have the experience and perspective to quash the stupid thinking we often see.

[bigjohn]

You guys have no idea what I have done or seen!

[bigjohn]

Scout.com: 2003 DIVISION V STATE CHAMPIONSHIP

I am not sure where the new ohio director stands on this issue.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

I am not sure where the new ohio director stands on this issue.

you've been told plenty of times...

[bigjohn]

Same guy that says it is fine to wear shorts on Friday night?

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Same guy that says it is fine to wear shorts on Friday night?

Yep, along with the current and former State Rules Interpreters.

[Forksref]

Reggie Bush play: definitely a foul.

In HS ball, if the player is ONLY contacting the runner and pushing him it is a foul. I've called it twice from my WH position.

Can anyone tell me if it is a foul in the NFL? It looked pretty obvious last night with #33 of the Steelers pushing Rothlisburger.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Forksref

Reggie Bush play: definitely a foul.

In HS ball, if the player is ONLY contacting the runner and pushing him it is a foul. I've called it twice from my WH position.

Can anyone tell me if it is a foul in the NFL? It looked pretty obvious last night with #33 of the Steelers pushing Rothlisburger.

It's only a foul to pull a runner in any direction (which is actually a change from last year when the rule also stated it was illegal to lift the runner to his feet).

A.R. From the 2013 Rule Book

A.R. 12.2 Second and goal on B2. Runner A1 gets to the line of scrimmage and is stopped but A2, who is behind him, pushes him from behind and shoves him over the goal line.
Ruling: Touchdown