The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Football
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Aug 20, 2013, 02:29pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 82
Placement of ball?

3rd down on B's 10yard line. A5 rolls out and throws the ball away at the 15 yard line with no receivers in the are. Where is the penalty enforced from?
High chool rules.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Aug 20, 2013, 02:33pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,517
Illegal passes are enforced at the spot of the foul. So this is a loose ball play and the foul took place behind the previous spot, the enforcement spot is the 15. And this is a loss of down penalty so 4th and (whatever) from the 20.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Aug 20, 2013, 02:36pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 236
Illegal forward passes (in this case intentional grounding) are spot fouls. so if he threw it from the 15 (5 yards behind the LOS), you would enforce it from there. 5 yards and loss of down. 4th down from B's 20
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Aug 20, 2013, 02:51pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 236
JR, just as a clarification: the previous spot does not come into play on an illegal forward pass since it is a spot foul enforcement. Example: Pass thrown beyond LOS is enforced from spot of pass even if forward of the previous spot on what we might consider a loose ball play.
Correct me if I am wrong, always learning
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Aug 20, 2013, 03:21pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 751
7.5.2 Situation A

Penalize from the spot of the foul (where the run ended)
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Aug 20, 2013, 03:25pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 23
10-3-1 An illegal pass is not included in a loose ball play.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Tue Aug 20, 2013, 04:09pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,517
If it really matters to you, it is not a loose ball play, but it is enforced just like a loose ball play for IG. There was a time that the penalty for IG did not fit into an illegal forward pass definition and there was a debate over if IG actually was an IFP. Now the definition fits, but the penalty is enforced as if it was any loose ball penalty as to have IG you must be passing behind the previous spot (or LOS) in order to consider the other classifications of that penalty. Once you cross the previous spot then it does not matter who you are throwing it to. Either way it would be a foul enforced at the spot in either case. This is something I would expect the NF to ask on a test rather then what is actually relevant to the enforcement.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:42pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by surehands View Post
3rd down on B's 10yard line. A5 rolls out and throws the ball away at the 15 yard line with no receivers in the are. Where is the penalty enforced from?
High chool rules.
surehands, the easiest way to get this right is always remember that an illegal forward pass is a running play, not a loose ball play. Whether he throws it away from behind the LOS or runs 10 yards past the LOS, it's a running play and it's penalized from the spot of the foul.
__________________
"...as cool as the other side of the pillow." - Stuart Scott

"You should never be proud of doing the right thing." - Dean Smith
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
KO Mechanic, Ball Placement ppaltice Football 16 Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:08pm
Ball placement for extra points. verticalStripes Football 7 Thu Nov 06, 2008 01:33pm
Ball Placement surehands Football 9 Wed Sep 03, 2008 09:23am
What down, distance, and placement of ball seanireland Football 5 Thu Oct 30, 2003 05:43pm
Placement of Ball??? Peter Devana Basketball 1 Mon Jan 29, 2001 08:16am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:40am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1