Q99 Part I Exam - Page 2

Bob M. · #16 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 15, 2003, 03:31pm

In NJ, Part 1 is taken open book. Encouraged to take with your crew. Part 2 is not administered in NJ.

Also, back to the original post re: Q#99...I just got my test back. I answered "FALSE" and it's been marked INCORRECT !!! That means that the FED answer key says the answer's TRUE ?!?!?!

Isn't it an official's TO when the clock is stopped on a change of possession? (See NF 3-5-7c) And don't we subsequently start the clock on the snap? Whoever came up with this answer needs a beating.

SWFLguy · #17 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 15, 2003, 08:05pm

here's the deal-- skinny-- or whatever-----
and especially tell the rookies out there:
READ the "NOTE" stuff on the first page that
refers to "exam situations"--
the last sentence happens to read:
There is no foul or change of possession,
unless it is mentioned, and penalties are
considered accepted for enforcement.
So---#99 is true as written !
You do no read any extra information
into the question.
Good luck on the test that "counts" !!
btw---
here in SW FL-- we go over the Federation Part 1
together in training sessions, and everyone takes
a FL State produced test for rankings. Allegedly
the FL test will include some "situation questions"
--- we will see on 8/25 when we take the test !

mikesears · #18 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 16, 2003, 09:37am

Quote:

Originally posted by SWFLguy
here's the deal-- skinny-- or whatever-----
and especially tell the rookies out there:
READ the "NOTE" stuff on the first page that
refers to "exam situations"--
the last sentence happens to read:
There is no foul or change of possession,
unless it is mentioned, and penalties are
considered accepted for enforcement.
So---#99 is true as written !
You do no read any extra information
into the question.
Good luck on the test that "counts" !!
btw---
here in SW FL-- we go over the Federation Part 1
together in training sessions, and everyone takes
a FL State produced test for rankings. Allegedly
the FL test will include some "situation questions"
--- we will see on 8/25 when we take the test !

So after each question, we must tell ourselves (or remind ourselves) there was no change of possession, etc.

Makes sense if there is no change of possession. I've often thought about submitting my reasoning behind my answeres WITH my answer sheet.

BktBallRef · #19 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 16, 2003, 10:05am

Quote:

Originally posted by SWFLguy
here's the deal-- skinny-- or whatever-----
and especially tell the rookies out there:
READ the "NOTE" stuff on the first page that
refers to "exam situations"--
the last sentence happens to read:
There is no foul or change of possession,
unless it is mentioned, and penalties are
considered accepted for enforcement.

Kinda like telling the officials before a game that #76 will be an eligible receiver on FGA and PAT.

SWFLguy · #20 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 16, 2003, 12:54pm

I don't write these test items--
as a retired educator I've said before
that True/False tests have low
reliability----
but since we're stuck with them
you'll need to always consider those
instructions on page one !
btw---
how can #76 ever be an eligible receiver ???
isn't he ineligible by number ??
(unless of course he puts on a jersey
with numbers 1-49 or 80-99 !!)

BktBallRef · #21 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 16, 2003, 10:14pm

Quote:

Originally posted by SWFLguy
btw---
how can #76 ever be an eligible receiver ???
isn't he ineligible by number ??
(unless of course he puts on a jersey
with numbers 1-49 or 80-99 !!)

Giants-49ers - 2002 Playoff game.

chayos · #22 (**permalink**) Tue Aug 19, 2003, 08:24pm

The answer to this question is TRUE

Warrenkicker · #23 (**permalink**) Tue Aug 19, 2003, 08:56pm

Well I thought that I had a scenario to challenge this question but it all comes down to this question. Where are we told that a dead ball foul stops the clock? I am not coming accross that actual words anywhere.

BktBallRef · #24 (**permalink**) Tue Aug 19, 2003, 10:35pm

Quote:

Originally posted by chayos
The answer to this question is TRUE

The Answer Key answer is True but I think we've proven here that the correct answer is False. Just like the Answer Key is incorrect on #63.

mikesears · #25 (**permalink**) Wed Aug 20, 2003, 07:56am

Quote:

Originally posted by Warrenkicker
Well I thought that I had a scenario to challenge this question but it all comes down to this question. Where are we told that a dead ball foul stops the clock? I am not coming accross that actual words anywhere.

We are told that the clock stops after any foul.

SWFLguy · #26 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 21, 2003, 09:56am

re: ineligible receiver by number
to: BB Ref
I was thinking Federation (high school)
rules--- not NFL.
Guys like me who work only
high school games should't watch too
much Sunday or MNF !

Schultj · #27 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 21, 2003, 10:14am

I'm not convinced that you have "proven" #99 is false, but that #99 is a poor question. To much is left to assume, and what you assume dictates your answer. Bad question.

Warrenkicker · #28 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 21, 2003, 10:34am

Quote:

Originally posted by SWFLguy
here's the deal-- skinny-- or whatever-----
and especially tell the rookies out there:
READ the "NOTE" stuff on the first page that
refers to "exam situations"--
the last sentence happens to read:
There is no foul or change of possession,
unless it is mentioned, and penalties are
considered accepted for enforcement.
So---#99 is true as written !
You do no read any extra information
into the question.

This is why the question is True.