Can someone explain (sorry, very basic question)

[maven]

Originally Posted by SamG

Thanks for the answer. I guess what throws me off is when you see (generally) a lineman "flinch", and the flag is thrown.

That's a foul for false start because the lineman has simulated the snap. Teams that look to the sideline for the play have to be careful not to jerk up in their shifting, or they risk being flagged for FS.

The shifting you saw Louisville do involved backs (including receivers lined up off the line of scrimmage) and ends only. But by rule all 11 on offense are permitted to shift, and to do so as often as they wish within the limits of the play clock.

Before snapping the ball (or 1 player legally going in motion just before the snap), all 11 must be perfectly still for 1 second.

[HLin NC]

Haven't we had this argument before this fall?

[SamG]

Originally Posted by maven

That's a foul for false start because the lineman has simulated the snap. Teams that look to the sideline for the play have to be careful not to jerk up in their shifting, or they risk being flagged for FS.

The shifting you saw Louisville do involved backs (including receivers lined up off the line of scrimmage) and ends only. But by rule all 11 on offense are permitted to shift, and to do so as often as they wish within the limits of the play clock.

Before snapping the ball (or 1 player legally going in motion just before the snap), all 11 must be perfectly still for 1 second.

Thank you maven & JRutledge.

To those of you poking fun or griping that "you've already discussed this", I lurk here a lot. I try to increase my knowledge of the rules. How many times have I heard gripes about fans not knowing the rules? Or people don't respect what an official does? So here's a fan, willingly admitting he doesn't know the rules and wants to learn, asking what I thought was a simple question. I'm sorry I so interrupted your day.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SamG

Thank you maven & JRutledge.

To those of you poking fun or griping that "you've already discussed this", I lurk here a lot. I try to increase my knowledge of the rules. How many times have I heard gripes about fans not knowing the rules? Or people don't respect what an official does? So here's a fan, willingly admitting he doesn't know the rules and wants to learn, asking what I thought was a simple question. I'm sorry I so interrupted your day.

I do not think the comment was directed at you. The comments was directed at a certain coach that likes to stir up trouble every time we discuss rule he has never had to enforce. And yes we did discuss this before this year and many times before. Your question was reasonable and clearly looking for some understanding. All I was trying to do was clarify to the uninformed why this is not called. Some of us do this on a regular basis and others (not talking about you) like to gripe about things they do not have the heart to do themselves.

Thanks for your question.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by SamG

To those of you poking fun or griping that "you've already discussed this", I lurk here a lot. I try to increase my knowledge of the rules. How many times have I heard gripes about fans not knowing the rules? Or people don't respect what an official does? So here's a fan, willingly admitting he doesn't know the rules and wants to learn, asking what I thought was a simple question. I'm sorry I so interrupted your day.

Sam, HLinNC was referring to the comments by bigjohn who says he's a coach but really wants to be an official. He wasn't referring to you.

[bigjohn]

You are missing the point, but I understand that.

I agree it is often done correctly but many times all 11 are not set when someone goes in motion or the linemen all get set quickly and they run a play. Sometimes they act like they are running a play on a quick and then everyone drops their butt and looks over at the sideline. The rules get stretched and they are given a lot of latitude because they always do it.

There is a good bit of this going on here in Ohio because all the MAC schools are using this signalling system using boards and 4 coaches signaling.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

You are missing the point, but I understand that.

I agree it is often done correctly but many times all 11 are not set when someone goes in motion or the linemen all get set quickly and they run a play. Sometimes they act like they are running a play on a quick and then everyone drops their butt and looks over at the sideline. The rules get stretched and they are given a lot of latitude because they always do it.

There is a good bit of this going on here in Ohio because all the MAC schools are using this signalling system using boards and 4 coaches signaling.

You know what? You're right. Their hearts are beating and they're breathing. Flag them all day.

One day you'll have an epiphany and figure out what "spirit of the rules" means and you'll come back and tell us how silly you've been all these years.

[SamG]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Not every post is a reply to you.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Sam, HLinNC was referring to the comments by bigjohn who says he's a coach but really wants to be an official. He wasn't referring to you.

Sorry, couldn't tell since no one was quoted.