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JRutledge Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:19am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 871522)
I always measure when it's needed, but 4-5 times a game seems way excessive. YMMV (and clearly does).

As I stated we are OK with it. I think we have a job to do and it seems to me that is part of our job. We are most of all accused of having an agenda and that takes away that part of their gripe.

Peace

Adam Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:28am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 871522)
I always measure when it's needed, but 4-5 times a game seems way excessive. YMMV (and clearly does).

I am confident I have had a total of four or five measurements in my entire football career.

JugglingReferee Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:31am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 871527)
I am confident I have had a total of four or five measurements in my entire football career.

You worked 1 game, and it was with Rut?

Rich Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:38am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 871528)
You worked 1 game, and it was with Rut?

That's funny.

JRutledge Fri Jan 11, 2013 01:11am

Well I am the back judge so I have absolutely no say in when or if we measure a spot. Again I do not see the big deal, but if it bothers others I guess people like to get upset about something when they officiate.

Peace

CT1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 08:43am

Seems to go in cycles for me.

Had one HS season a few years ago where we had no measurements the entire season, probably because we had mostly blowout games.

OTOH, had a game this year where we measured three times in a half. They were all v-e-r-y close, and all on the opposite side of the field from the chains, which brought some snide comments from the volunteer chain crew.

If it's close in a competitive game, or if it's a crucial situation late in the game (even if it's not all that close), we measure. In a blowout -- almost never.

MD Longhorn Fri Jan 11, 2013 09:06am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871540)
Well I am the back judge so I have absolutely no say in when or if we measure a spot. Again I do not see the big deal, but if it bothers others I guess people like to get upset about something when they officiate.

Peace

Not sure it bothers people... just strikes them (and me) as very odd. 4-5 in a career (Adam), conversely, seems quite low. I'd say we probably average slightly less than 1 a game in games with a real chain crew... significantly less than that when it's kiddos running the chains.

JugglingReferee Fri Jan 11, 2013 09:45am

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 871575)
Not sure it bothers people... just strikes them (and me) as very odd. 4-5 in a career (Adam), conversely, seems quite low. I'd say we probably average slightly less than 1 a game in games with a real chain crew... significantly less than that when it's kiddos running the chains.

Rut is just twisting things again.

JRutledge Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:38am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 871586)
Rut is just twisting things again.

How am I twisting things? It is not unusual for my crew to measure that many times. That is not an exaggeration. Of course there are games where there are not many measurements either. But even with a lot of turf fields, many of them are not turf or well marked. And that is what causes the issues or the complaints if you do not measure or when you think the outcome is obvious we are surprised how close, that is why we measure. Turf fields are only the rage in the last 4 or 5 years at best. There have been schools that had turf longer, but we do not all work at that one or two schools that got them early.

I love how once again if someone does not do something that others do, somehow people cannot deal with that fact. Once again, my crew is just fine with our philosophy and for a long time I was the youngest on the crew and was not telling guys that had been through their fires what I wanted to do.

Peace

Rich Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:42am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871627)
But even with a lot of turf fields, many of them are not turf

:confused:

MD Longhorn Fri Jan 11, 2013 01:38pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871627)
How am I twisting things?

Well, you took a few people saying they thought something was unusual and expanded that into saying it bothered people. I don't think it bothered anyone... it just seems very unusual.

MD Longhorn Fri Jan 11, 2013 01:39pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 871630)
:confused:

His statement seemed clear to me. Paraphrase:

Even though many fields are turf, many others are not.

Rich Fri Jan 11, 2013 01:49pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 871676)
His statement seemed clear to me. Paraphrase:

Even though many fields are turf, many others are not.

I get it now. It was one of those phrases I was, apparently, putting through a Jar Jar Binks filter.

JRutledge Fri Jan 11, 2013 04:01pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 871675)
Well, you took a few people saying they thought something was unusual and expanded that into saying it bothered people. I don't think it bothered anyone... it just seems very unusual.

Well it seems to bother them. Why is anyone commenting on why we measure and putting it to their crew if they feel something is not wrong. Rich made a comment, "The wings are letting you down...." Really they are letting us down because we have no problem doing our job?

Peace

Adam Fri Jan 11, 2013 05:04pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 871575)
Not sure it bothers people... just strikes them (and me) as very odd. 4-5 in a career (Adam), conversely, seems quite low. I'd say we probably average slightly less than 1 a game in games with a real chain crew... significantly less than that when it's kiddos running the chains.

Well it was my first season this year.


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