Cleat Police!

[bigjohn]

Oregon LB suspended from football playoff loss because of length of cleats ? from the week before | Prep Rally - Yahoo! Sports

[Welpe]

A coach didn't know this was a rule? I guess it's not THAT surprising but it is a little.

[HLin NC]

Little rough, I mean the 15 yard unsportsmanlike against the coach for being improperly equipped wasn't enough? Send the kid off, mark off 15, and if he replaces the illegal cleats, then we're good to go. Sounds to me as if there is more to this.

You all do know that's what the plastic notch in the game card is for.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Little rough, I mean the 15 yard unsportsmanlike against the coach for being improperly equipped wasn't enough? Send the kid off, mark off 15, and if he replaces the illegal cleats, then we're good to go. Sounds to me as if there is more to this.

You all do know that's what the plastic notch in the game card is for.

The notch is the absence of plastic. So then how could the notch be plastic?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

The notch is the absence of plastic. So then how could the notch be plastic?

If he doesn't say it, I will.

[Welpe]

Word is that the rule in Oregon mandates that the player is DQ'd.

[HLin NC]

Word is that the rule in Oregon mandates that the player is DQ'd

He'll, what's the penalty for an ineligible player? Death by hanging?

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Word is that the rule in Oregon mandates that the player is DQ'd.

It's true.

http://oreofficials.org/media/upload...lletin%202.pdf

There is no penalty if illegal cleats are discovered during pre-game warm-ups, however, the
player may not participate until he/she gets legal cleats. When illegal cleats are discovered
during the game, ALL offending players SHALL be ejected for the remainder of that contest.
That’s an Oregon-Only rules modification of NFHS rules and also an OSAA Executive Board
policy.

[BktBallRef]

Very harsh.

However, it's the coach's job to know the rule. They make all kinds of things that are illegal. that doesn't mean you allow kids to wear them.

[HLin NC]

ALL offending players SHALL be ejected for the remainder of that contest.

I don't see in there where they get to suspend him for an additional game in their ruling. I hate the letigious society we've become but as a parent, I'd be pretty po'd for my kid to be suspended for a subsequent game when the prescribed penalty is ejection "for the remainder of the contest". The subsequent punishment smacks of NASCAR where the rules change weekly.

it's the coach's job to know the rule

I agree. I'm also pretty sure most of these coaches when asked if they are legally equipped put as much thought into the answer as when I ask my son if he's finished his homework. The penalty for that can be pretty severe!

Tough lesson to learn.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

I don't see in there where they get to suspend him for an additional game in their ruling. I hate the letigious society we've become but as a parent, I'd be pretty po'd for my kid to be suspended for a subsequent game when the prescribed penalty is ejection "for the remainder of the contest". The subsequent punishment smacks of NASCAR where the rules change weekly.

The penalty for ejection is no secret.

The regulations mandate that a player or coach who has been ejected must sit out the reamainder of the day and through the next contest at the level that the ejection occured.

[HLin NC]

The penalty for ejection is no secret.

Agree

The regulations mandate that a player or coach who has been ejected must sit out the reamainder of the day and through the next contest at the level that the ejection occured.

Not so fast my friend.

There is no penalty if illegal cleats are discovered during pre-game warm-ups, however, the player may not participate until he/she gets legal cleats. When illegal cleats are discovered during the game, ALL offending players SHALL be ejected for the remainder of that contest. That’s an Oregon-Only rules modification of NFHS rules and also an OSAA Executive Board
policy.

Unless there is some other portion left out of the linked news article or the Oregon officials sheet that we have not been made privy to, I don't see where there was the need to make him sit out another contest beyond the game ejection.

Now in NC we have ejections which require a suspension (mainly for fighting) and disqualifications which may be what Oregon does also.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by asdf

The penalty for ejection is no secret.

The regulations mandate that a player or coach who has been ejected must sit out the reamainder of the day and through the next contest at the level that the ejection occured.

Really? Then post it, because no one has to this point. We can only go by what's been posted.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Agree



Not so fast my friend.

There is no penalty if illegal cleats are discovered during pre-game warm-ups, however, the player may not participate until he/she gets legal cleats. When illegal cleats are discovered during the game, ALL offending players SHALL be ejected for the remainder of that contest. That’s an Oregon-Only rules modification of NFHS rules and also an OSAA Executive Board
policy.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Really? Then post it, because no one has to this point. We can only go by what's been posted.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how an officials association has any say on the penalty for being ejected from a contest.

My information comes from the OSAA 2012-2013 Handbook

Article 19 - Ejection Policies - Ejected Player or Coach

7. Q. When a coach or player is ejected, when and over what period of time are the ejection period and suspension period?

A. Note: If the ejection occurs in the last contest at a particular level, the suspension carries over to the next contest at any level in that sport in that season.



Sport Ejection Period Suspension Period

Baseball Remainder of that day. Sit out through next contest at that level.

Basketball Remainder of that day. Sit out through next contest at that level.

Football Remainder of that day. Sit out through next contest at that level.

Soccer Remainder of that day. Sit out through next contest at that level.

Softball Remainder of that day. Sit out through next contest at that level.

Volleyball Remainder of that day. Sit out through next playing date at that level.

Wrestling Follow NFHS Rules Book. Sit out through next contest at that level.

[ODJ]

Oregon School Activities Association is the state governing body, not an officials association.