DPI Questions

[La Rikardo]

NFHS rules.

1. 3rd and 20 on the A20. A completes a pass for 18 yards to the A38. B is flagged for a DPI foul. May A accept only the automatic first down and not the yardage or must they accept or decline the penalties together?

2. 1st and 10 on the B35. A throws an incomplete pass. B is flagged for a DPI foul which the officials decide is intentional. Is the additional 15 yards assessed as a separate penalty from the 15 for the basic DPI foul, or is it assessed as one big 30 yard penalty?

[HLin NC]

Any distance portion of a penalty may be declined.

The referee is to give two separate signals so it is inferred that it is marked off in order. The signals are PI and then USC.

If you ever see it called, get pictures or video because its more rare than Sasquatch.

[jchamp]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Any distance portion of a penalty may be declined.

So am I to understand that the 15 yards of the DPI is declined, but the first down remains? It sounds like a more fair application of the rules, but I've not had this happen to me, where I've had to enforce it.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Any distance portion of a penalty may be declined.

The referee is to give two separate signals so it is inferred that it is marked off in order. The signals are PI and then USC.

If you ever see it called, get pictures or video because its more rare than Sasquatch.

There's a YT video with an IDPI in it.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by jchamp

So am I to understand that the 15 yards of the DPI is declined, but the first down remains?

No.

The basic spot for DPI (loose ball play) is the previous spot. A's options are:

(1) Accept the penalty and yardage. 1st-and-10 on the A-35.
(2) Decline the penalty. 4th and 2 on the A-38.
(3) Accept the penalty but decline the yardage. 1st-and-10 on the A-20.

In my game, we won't ever get past Option #1.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

NFHS rules.

1. 3rd and 20 on the A20. A completes a pass for 18 yards to the A38. B is flagged for a DPI foul. May A accept only the automatic first down and not the yardage or must they accept or decline the penalties together?

I think what you're asking is can they take the 18 yard reception, refuse the 15 yards and take the auto 1st down. No, they cannot.

They can take the play or the penalty, not both.

Originally Posted by jchamp

So am I to understand that the 15 yards of the DPI is declined, but the first down remains? It sounds like a more fair application of the rules, but I've not had this happen to me, where I've had to enforce it.

Originally Posted by CT1

No.

The basic spot for DPI (loose ball play) is the previous spot. A's options are:

(1) Accept the penalty and yardage. 1st-and-10 on the A-35.
(2) Decline the penalty. 4th and 2 on the A-38.
(3) Accept the penalty but decline the yardage. 1st-and-10 on the A-20.

In my game, we won't ever get past Option #1.

Disagree.

They can decline the 15 yards but accept the 1st down. However, it will be a 1st down from the previous spot.

And no, there's no real reason to do this.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I think what you're asking is can they take the 18 yard reception, refuse the 15 yards and take the auto 1st down. No, they cannot.

They can take the play or the penalty, not both.





Disagree.

They can decline the 15 yards but accept the 1st down. However, it will be a 1st down from the previous spot.

And no, there's no real reason to do this.

How is that different than his third option?

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

There's a YT video with an IDPI in it.

Link?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Link?

Found it.

It was an AFL game with no video of the act. Sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb8XrWS2qHE