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Old Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:13am
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That's fine, and I'm glad to know you handled it correctly.

I was simply commenting on this other official: when telling someone he's wrong, I always try to start with a win for him. For instance: "You know, Bob, you're right: when B tips the ball, you can't have PI. But I don't think that provision applies to RTP. The passer is still protected."

I was thinking something similar about his concern that the passer was no longer a passer after the ball was released. "Bob, you're right, he does cease to be a passer at some point, but I think he has until the pass ends."
Maybe he was thinking the pass ends when the ball is tipped?
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Old Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:22am
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Maybe he was thinking the pass ends when the ball is tipped?
That is what I was thinking. That is going to be a longer discussion to change that thinking in that moment.

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Old Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:03pm
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Was this a Coach-Referee conference?
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Old Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:17pm
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Was this a Coach-Referee conference?
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Old Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:31pm
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That is what I was thinking. That is going to be a longer discussion to change that thinking in that moment.

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Not much longer: "It is still a forward pass until it is caught or becomes dead by rule."
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Old Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:24pm
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Not much longer: "It is still a forward pass until it is caught or becomes dead by rule."
That is if they accept that comment. There are people all the time that insist on things being in a definition and clearly are wrong. So I agree in a perfect world it should click in their mind that is true, but some people are not aware of some basic definitions they will argue points they cannot prove without a rulebook present. And unless you are in Ohio that is not going to happen.

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Old Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:30pm
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Not much longer: "It is still a forward pass until it is caught or becomes dead by rule."
Tipped ball hits the ground and then the "passer" is hit, he is no longer a passer. But you could still have a dead ball PF.
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