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Welpe Tue Oct 23, 2012 09:44am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 859665)
Enough, already. All of you. The mechanics a state works in HS football have nothing to do with being in and living in the state itself.

You stole my thunder. :)

Welpe Tue Oct 23, 2012 09:46am

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Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 859668)
Lighten up Francis!!! (RICH) most of us know this is good natured banter and not true ripping on anyone's home state!

I'm not Rich but I'll say this, one of our goals as moderators and admins is to reduce the amount of off topic posts in threads. There's no need for threads to go off into the weeds like they are wont to do on this forum.

JRutledge Tue Oct 23, 2012 09:47am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 859667)
Keep this up and MTD will post another tOSU video. :D

Carrying a rule book to the field wouldn't bother me, but putting the onus on the officials to prove a ruling is completely ridiculous. It must be really bad in OH for the guy in charge to make this the way things are done.

You realize Michigan just beat them without them cheating. Bring that on!!!

And bringing a rulebook out is stupid on so many levels. There is a reason that no major sport advocates this practice (heck I cannot think of any sport for that matter but I do not work sports like Lacrosse and Rugby) and why any state would even ask anyone to do that is absurd. And the fact that any onus would be on anyone is even sillier if that is going to be the requirement. All you are doing is opening up for constant debate. It is not always quick to look up something in the rulebook or casebook and a reference often is found in some obscure place. Since they want to be silly, they should require "Rules by Topic" book. At least the rules and the case plays are in the same place. :)

Peace

MD Longhorn Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:10am

I can only imagine the havoc in Ohio junior high games, where you have coaches that barely know half the rules and learned the other two thirds on TV (math failed on purpose)... combined occasionally with newbie linesmen or referees just learning the craft. This could get ugly AND protracted.

maven Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:33am

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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 859659)
Our state has foiled that by giving each official a discrete test. The online-only T/F test has 50 questions which are pulled from a pool of 250 NFHS-supplied questions at the time we log in. Thus, an answer key is useless.

The whole purpose of our pre-season test is to get officials "into the book" by allowing enough time to look up the answers. We have 2 hours to answer the 50 questions.

That's a good implementation, IMO. Please post or PM which state is doing that, and I'll pass it along.

parepat Tue Oct 23, 2012 01:58pm

This topic has been discussed previously

http://forum.officiating.com/footbal...-opinions.html

Altor Tue Oct 23, 2012 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 859701)
I can only imagine the havoc in Ohio junior high games, where you have coaches that barely know half the rules and learned the other two thirds on TV (math failed on purpose)... combined occasionally with newbie linesmen or referees just learning the craft. This could get ugly AND protracted.

It's unlikely that the JH coaches that barely know half the rules would know that they can request a timeout for the purpose of a rules clarification.

MD Longhorn Tue Oct 23, 2012 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by Altor (Post 859762)
It's unlikely that the JH coaches that barely know half the rules would know that they can request a timeout for the purpose of a rules clarification.

All it takes is one... and then all their buddies will know it.

BktBallRef Tue Oct 23, 2012 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 859671)
...one of our goals as moderators and admins is to reduce the amount of off topic posts in threads.

About time. I've been 8itching about this for years! :mad:

Forksref Tue Oct 23, 2012 07:16pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 859418)
Seems to me the onus should be on the coach to show you the rule if you're going to allow these shananigans.

In our state only the head coach is required to take the NFHS but is not required to pass it!

I think they should be required to pass it as well as the assistants. THEN, they are issued a license to discuss a rule. If they don't have a card, then they can't waste our time talking rules they no nothing about.

"That pass was uncatchable!"


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