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Old Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:32pm
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In NCAA it is a foul only if the ball is batted towards the opponent's goal line. So it would only be a foul in b. Wind the clock when Team B bats the kick and go from there.
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Old Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:38pm
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What about A.R Ruling 9-4-1 IX?

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Old Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:48pm
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As in why is that AR a foul? It is because what I said previously only applies to between the goal lines. It is illegal to bat the ball any direction while it is in the end zone.

Here is 9-4-1 in its entirety.

Batting a Loose Ball
ARTICLE 1. a. While a pass is in flight, only a player who is eligible to touch
the ball may bat it in any direction (Exception: Rule 9-4-2).

b. Any player may block a scrimmage kick in the field of play or the end zone.

c. No player shall bat other loose balls forward in the field of play or in any
direction if the ball is in the end zone (Rule 2-2-3-a) (Exception: Rule 6-3-
11) (A.R. 6-3-11-I, A.R. 9-4-1-I-X and A.R. 10-2-2-II).

PENALTY—10 yards and loss of down for fouls by Team A if the loss of down
is not in conflict with other rules [S31 and S9] [Exception: No
loss of down if the foul occurs when a legal scrimmage kick is
beyond the neutral zone].
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Old Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:19pm
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So in NCAA we will allow a player to bat the ball away from an opponent in order to keep them from the ball even if it is back to their end zone?

I see on a scrimmage kick but on a free kick or fumble only direction matters?

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Old Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:51pm
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That is correct. Keep in mind that if Team B bats the grounded kick into their end zone, the impetus for putting the ball into the end zone is now on them.
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Old Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:55pm
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That is correct. Keep in mind that if Team B bats the grounded kick into their end zone, the impetus for putting the ball into the end zone is now on them.
Well I guess I am really not concerned about the EZ but to the sideline or in an effort to simply get it away from the opponent. I guess I just see a hole in the rule whether it is a real hole in NCAA rules or just me bringing a NF rule to the table of my thinking.

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Old Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:14pm
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Well I guess I am really not concerned about the EZ but to the sideline or in an effort to simply get it away from the opponent. I guess I just see a hole in the rule whether it is a real hole in NCAA rules or just me bringing a NF rule to the table of my thinking.

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Maybe you've neglected the fact that if the batted ball went out of bounds, it's still a kick --- and thus still a kick out of bounds.
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