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Old Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:09pm
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Trick extra point

I believe we've discussed this here before but couldn't remember the outcome. I'm white hat in a JV game. The coach tells me about a trick extra point right before it happens.

The holder acts like he's kneeling but his knee is about 2 inches off the ground. Takes the snap and does a modified statue of liberty play and they score 2 on a sweep.

Something strikes me like the 'hey coach I need a new ball' trickery play. Thoughts? Would you kill it or let it go?
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Old Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:13pm
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Like this from 1999?

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Old Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:16pm
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We are in NFHS rules
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Old Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:54pm
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The holder may start on his knee during a try: this trickery is needless. He must rise from his knee to pass (forward or backward), run, or hand the ball off. Starting with his knee 1 inch off the ground will not excuse him from needing to rise before running or passing.

If he does not rise, I will probably rule the ball dead according to 4-2-2a Exception.
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Old Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:03pm
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The holder may start on his knee during a try: this trickery is needless. He must rise from his knee to pass (forward or backward), run, or hand the ball off. Starting with his knee 1 inch off the ground will not excuse him from needing to rise before running or passing.
Then you are making up your own rule. Some deception is a part of football- no different than a fake handoff, pump fake, fake spike, faking a blitz.
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Old Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:20pm
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After research, the casebook clearly defines this as legal if he rises up from the ground.
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Old Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:19pm
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Like this from 1999?

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Perfectly fine in NCAA rules.
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