Trick extra point

[bkdow]

After research, the casebook clearly defines this as legal if he rises up from the ground.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bkdow

After research, the casebook clearly defines this as legal if he rises up from the ground.

It's legal whether he rises or not.

He is not required to put his knee on the ground. If his knee is off the ground, he can legally hand the ball off or pass it without standing.

The wrong ball play is deceiving the defense into believing there's a problem and the ball isn't going to be snapped. That's why it's illegal. This play is a legal deception AFTER the ball is snapped. The two plays are not the same at all.

[bkdow]

So, you would allow the holder to throw a pass with his knee on the ground? At the time he has his knee on the ground and does something besides be a holder, I'm killing the play and ruling him down.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bkdow

So, you would allow the holder to throw a pass with his knee on the ground? At the time he has his knee on the ground and does something besides be a holder, I'm killing the play and ruling him down.

Nobody ever said the knee was on the ground. If it's clearly off the ground, he doesn't have to rise further.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Rich

If it's clearly off the ground, he doesn't have to rise further.

I agree with this, provided that it's clear that the knee is not down. That might be less than clear in the OP.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by maven

I agree with this, provided that it's clear that the knee is not down. That might be less than clear in the OP.

Clear to the official, not necessarily clear to the defense.

[maven]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Clear to the official, not necessarily clear to the defense.

True, but it probably needs to be clear to 3 officials, as the wings might blow this dead, too.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bkdow

So, you would allow the holder to throw a pass with his knee on the ground? At the time he has his knee on the ground and does something besides be a holder, I'm killing the play and ruling him down.

You said in the OP that his knee was never down.

[bkdow]

Ah, I agree

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bkdow

So, you would allow the holder to throw a pass with his knee on the ground? At the time he has his knee on the ground and does something besides be a holder, I'm killing the play and ruling him down.

Is his knee on the ground or is it 2" off the ground like you said in the OP?

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