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Old Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:42pm
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The only power the NFLRA has is the difference in quality between them and the replacements. If it weren't for them threatening the D1 officials with being blacklisted, they would have no power. Time is more on the owner's side than the referees.

That threat is extortion. As Merriam-Webster puts it "to obtain from a person by force, intimidation, or undue or illegal power." It may not be the best word, but I think it fits.

I think the NFLRA is morally wrong to blacklist those who disagree with them that they are underpaid.
The real blacklisting is coming from the D-1 conferences. They have said that any of their officials who go to the NFL now are fired from their conference. I wholeheartedly agree with this. The conferences don't need to be trying to replace officials at this stage of the season. Any official who goes to the NFL now should know that they didn't earn their spot there and that they will never get back there once this is over. And watching them, I can see they are way over their head.
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Old Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:40pm
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NFL referees lockout: Roger Goodell not backing down - latimes.com

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That said, there could be a lot more mistakes as the speed on the field increases and the pressure mounts. The NFL is asking that the replacement officials show up to game sites 3 1/2 hours before kickoff -- an hour earlier than officials typically arrive -- so they can receive extra training from supervisors on such rudimentary aspects such as where to stand and how to conduct the coin toss. Some officials are wearing ear pieces that connect them to an eye in the sky -- another official watching from the press box -- to assist them in making calls.
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Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk......

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Old Wed Aug 29, 2012, 02:17pm
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Old Wed Aug 29, 2012, 07:04pm
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Ray Anderson said the following: 'We believe that officials should be evaluated and performance issues addressed in the same way as players, coaches, club management and league staff.'

Funny, because how come I do not hear Commissioner Goodell evaluating owners like, say, Mike Brown, who is 91 games under .500 as an owner. I am sure, now that Goodell has this evaluation 'kick', he will now hold owners responsible for their teams losing ways. Yeah, fat chance.

And Commissioner Goodell then wonders why everyone thinks his credibility is as low as David Stern's.
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Old Wed Sep 05, 2012, 05:14pm
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I am not a big fan of this situation or the fact that officials are crossing some kind of line, but the media has to do a better job talking about this situation. It is clear they cannot do a little more research to verify some of what they are talking about. They act like a guy that once did HS does not do any other level of football. Granted it is not the NFL level and that will be a problem, but do not totally undervalue the experience of those working these games. This is why the media just annoys me.

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Old Thu Sep 06, 2012, 06:27am
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Trust me, NFL officials arrive more than 2 1/2 hrs before the game.

And trust me, you will see better officiating on Saturdays than Sundays until this debacle is over.
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End of Seattle vs. Arizona game is the exact type of situation the NFL officials are hoping will happen more often.
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Old Sun Sep 09, 2012, 09:45pm
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There will be quite a blooper reel from today's games.
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End of Seattle vs. Arizona game is the exact type of situation the NFL officials are hoping will happen more often.
The timeout debacle? That was ugly.

I watched the 49er / Packer game and the officials were rough but not terrible. They did miss a crucial block in the back during a Packer's TD and there were a lot of flags but most seemed legit.

The reviews after scoring plays are a little ridiculous.
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Old Sun Sep 09, 2012, 10:14pm
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The timeout debacle? That was ugly.

I watched the 49er / Packer game and the officials were rough but not terrible. They did miss a crucial block in the back during a Packer's TD and there were a lot of flags but most seemed legit.

The reviews after scoring plays are a little ridiculous.
What made the IBB worse was that they *did* flag it and somehow the official got talked out of it. And it wasn't some marginal "maybe-side-block" it was clearly an IBB.
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Old Sun Sep 09, 2012, 11:16pm
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The timeout debacle? That was ugly.

I watched the 49er / Packer game and the officials were rough but not terrible. They did miss a crucial block in the back during a Packer's TD and there were a lot of flags but most seemed legit.

The reviews after scoring plays are a little ridiculous.
What was more surprising to me is that the league representative didn't know the rule. Seattle should have been charged their third and final team timeout after the injury...it didn't matter that the injury occurred after an incomplete pass. The only time they wouldn't charge a timeout after an injury is if the injury came as a result of a foul, if the injury occurred during a down with a change of possession, field goal or during a try attempt, or if the opponent called a timeout. Ideally, the timeout should not have been granted, but once they did, the damage was already done and there's no penalty for an official granting a 4th timeout.
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Old Wed Sep 05, 2012, 06:23pm
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Big East and anyone else ?????

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The real blacklisting is coming from the D-1 conferences. They have said that any of their officials who go to the NFL now are fired from their conference. I wholeheartedly agree with this. The conferences don't need to be trying to replace officials at this stage of the season. Any official who goes to the NFL now should know that they didn't earn their spot there and that they will never get back there once this is over. And watching them, I can see they are way over their head.
Couldn't agree more with your quote...........

I know that Terry McCaulay assigns the BE, but I am not up to date on other DI assigners. Are there any other active NFL officals who are currently D! supervisors ?????
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Old Wed Sep 05, 2012, 07:55pm
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Couldn't agree more with your quote...........

I know that Terry McCaulay assigns the BE, but I am not up to date on other DI assigners. Are there any other active NFL officals who are currently D! supervisors ?????
It is not the active ones they have to worry about alone. Many supervisors have kids working in the NFL or were former NFL officials themselves.

All I was said is it was made clear that those working for those guys might not have a place to come back to. After all, they are giving up their spot and just like anything else, no one is required to bring you back if this gets settled.

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