Football goal post color requirements

[CT1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There are no such thing as "IHSA Rules" per se.

Peace

Illinois doesn't use any of the "by state adoption" options?

[bigjohn]

So they can be any color? I am pretty sure recommendations are not regulations, correct?

[CT1]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

So they can be any color? I am pretty sure recommendations are not regulations, correct?

Correct -- you can go ahead and paint yours pink and not break any rules.

[Robert Goodman]

Can they be barber pole striped, as was the fad at one time? How about a little mark in the middle of the crossbar, as is favored in rugby? Do both goals have to be painted the same?

[bigjohn]

I have seen many painted orange. We have a lot of orange and black teams in our area and some have orange goal posts. We are orange and black but have white posts.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Can they be barber pole striped, as was the fad at one time? How about a little mark in the middle of the crossbar, as is favored in rugby? Do both goals have to be painted the same?

Here's the rule:

"The horizontal crossbar and the uprights above it shall be free from anv
decorative material except paint which is recommended to be either silver,
white or yellow in color. One wind directional streamer may be attached to
the top of each upright. Wind directional streamers shall be 4 inches in
width, 42 inches in length and either red, orange, or yellow in color."

[jchamp]

Originally Posted by CT1

Here's the rule:

"The horizontal crossbar and the uprights above it shall be free from anv
decorative material except paint which is recommended to be either silver,
white or yellow in color. One wind directional streamer may be attached to
the top of each upright. Wind directional streamers shall be 4 inches in
width, 42 inches in length and either red, orange, or yellow in color."

Since the rule does not specify that only one color of paint be used, and does permit paint to be used as a decorative material (it is listed as the exception to decorative materials), and since the colors are listed as recommendations and not required colors (note the difference in verbiage compared to the wind streamers) then I would have to agree that barber poles, tiger stripes, checkerboards, or digital camouflage meet the requirements, if not the intent, of the rule. If people get carried away, I could see a change being made. But painting the goalposts any single team color shouldn't be an issue, as long as it can be easily seen against whatever background is present.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by jchamp

Since the rule does not specify that only one color of paint be used, and does permit paint to be used as a decorative material (it is listed as the exception to decorative materials), and since the colors are listed as recommendations and not required colors (note the difference in verbiage compared to the wind streamers) then I would have to agree that barber poles, tiger stripes, checkerboards, or digital camouflage meet the requirements, if not the intent, of the rule. If people get carried away, I could see a change being made. But painting the goalposts any single team color shouldn't be an issue, as long as it can be easily seen against whatever background is present.

The candy cane, etc. stuff was done I believe in the belief that it would make the posts stand out more, not as camouflage.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

So they can be any color?

I'd go with tiger-striped!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CT1

Illinois doesn't use any of the "by state adoption" options?

That is not relevant to what I was saying. I just think people need to realize that the National Federation makes rules and states choose to follow them. Not that this is unique to our state, but many people say, "IHSA Rules" when they are referring to NF Rules.

Peace

[CT1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is not relevant to what I was saying.

Of course it is. The OP wanted to know what colors goal posts could be painted IN ILLINOIS. *I* don't know what Illinois allows that might be outside the NFHS standard.

Saying only that "(t)he IHSA uses in all sports National Federation Rules" implies that they use NFHS with no modifications.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CT1

Of course it is. The OP wanted to know what colors goal posts could be painted IN ILLINOIS. *I* don't know what Illinois allows that might be outside the NFHS standard.

Saying only that "(t)he IHSA uses in all sports National Federation Rules" implies that they use NFHS with no modifications.

Can you name any modifications? I certainly cannot.

And what is in the rulebook is the standard. States have the right to define how some rules are interpretation or if there is a policy that might be used, but this certainly does not apply to the color of the goal posts. For example there is a policy for concussions that we must follow, but the rules are not modified to accomplish that policy. The rules only deal with what is defined to allow a player come back into play. And that policy did not modify any NF rule to create a policy. If we identify a player that has concussion-like-symptoms, we still remove them from the game.

Maybe you can help me remember, but I do not know of not a single NF Rule in football that we do not apply across the board in Illinois.

Peace

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Can you name any modifications? I certainly cannot.

Overtime?

Point differential?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Overtime?

Point differential?

Are those modifications are state adopted rules (under NF Rulebook)?

Peace

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are those modifications are state adopted rules (under NF Rulebook)?

Peace

FED Overtime procedure states that the ball is placed on the 10 yard line, and there is no provision in FED rules for a change to timing rules or game termination due to point differentials. If your state is starting from other than the 10 yard line for OT, or making special rules depending on point differential then your state has adopted modifications.