horse collar

[yankeesfan]

any thoughts on the 2 horse collar calls in the gb/arizona game?

[aschramm]

I thought the first one was a pretty weak call, the second one seemed to be right on.

Was watching with some relatives, and after the first one everyone was yelling "horsecollar!!!", and I thought to myself it didn't warrant a flag, even though they threw one.

(Packers fan here, FWIW)

[yankeesfan]

i thought they were both pretty bad calls, just my opinion. if they didnt call the first one, i dont believe they would of flagged the second one.

[umpirebob71]

I didn't think either one warranted a flag, but I work under Fed rules, not NFL. In the first one, the runner fell forward, not back. In the second one, the tackler let go before the runner went down. Maybe NFL rules are different from Federation.

[aschramm]

Originally Posted by umpirebob71

I didn't think either one warranted a flag, but I work under Fed rules, not NFL. In the first one, the runner fell forward, not back. In the second one, the tackler let go before the runner went down. Maybe NFL rules are different from Federation.

That is the same reason I thought it didn't deserve a flag. But without the wording of the NFL rule, I'd have to defer to the official's call.

[APG]

Originally Posted by aschramm

That is the same reason I thought it didn't deserve a flag. But without the wording of the NFL rule, I'd have to defer to the official's call.

Official Rules of the NFL 2009

Rule 12, Section 2, Article 1
All players are prohibited from:

(d) grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down the runner. The does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or a quarterback who is in the pocket

[FredFan7]

I would have passed on the first one. The second one was there and a good call.

Stabile (HL22) made both of those calls and I think he'll work in this year's Super Bowl.

[hootrgibson]

Originally Posted by FredFan7

I would have passed on the first one. The second one was there and a good call.

Stabile (HL22) made both of those calls and I think he'll work in this year's Super Bowl.

Agreed...1 bad, one good.

[HLin NC]

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