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yankeesfan Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:54am

horse collar
 
any thoughts on the 2 horse collar calls in the gb/arizona game?

aschramm Mon Jan 11, 2010 03:25pm

I thought the first one was a pretty weak call, the second one seemed to be right on.

Was watching with some relatives, and after the first one everyone was yelling "horsecollar!!!", and I thought to myself it didn't warrant a flag, even though they threw one.

(Packers fan here, FWIW)

yankeesfan Mon Jan 11, 2010 03:50pm

i thought they were both pretty bad calls, just my opinion. if they didnt call the first one, i dont believe they would of flagged the second one.

umpirebob71 Mon Jan 11, 2010 05:32pm

I didn't think either one warranted a flag, but I work under Fed rules, not NFL. In the first one, the runner fell forward, not back. In the second one, the tackler let go before the runner went down. Maybe NFL rules are different from Federation.

aschramm Mon Jan 11, 2010 05:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by umpirebob71 (Post 650273)
I didn't think either one warranted a flag, but I work under Fed rules, not NFL. In the first one, the runner fell forward, not back. In the second one, the tackler let go before the runner went down. Maybe NFL rules are different from Federation.

That is the same reason I thought it didn't deserve a flag. But without the wording of the NFL rule, I'd have to defer to the official's call.

APG Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschramm (Post 650279)
That is the same reason I thought it didn't deserve a flag. But without the wording of the NFL rule, I'd have to defer to the official's call.

Official Rules of the NFL 2009

Rule 12, Section 2, Article 1

All players are prohibited from:

(d) grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down the runner. The does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or a quarterback who is in the pocket

FredFan7 Tue Jan 12, 2010 02:11pm

I would have passed on the first one. The second one was there and a good call.

Stabile (HL22) made both of those calls and I think he'll work in this year's Super Bowl.

hootrgibson Tue Jan 19, 2010 03:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredFan7 (Post 650687)
I would have passed on the first one. The second one was there and a good call.

Stabile (HL22) made both of those calls and I think he'll work in this year's Super Bowl.

Agreed...1 bad, one good.

HLin NC Wed May 23, 2012 05:47am

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