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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 10:08am
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Is there a limit on the number of times a team can decline the illegal procedure penalty one the kickoff when the kicking team is intentionally kicking out of bounds?

If a turnover occurs on a two point conversion can the defensive team return the ball for two points?
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 10:20am
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High School Football Questions

Is there a limit on the number of times a team can decline the illegal procedure penalty one the kickoff when the kicking team is intentionally kicking out of bounds?

If a turnover occurs on a two point conversion can the defensive team return the ball for two points?
Is there a rule that says that they can't intentionally kick out of bounds?

No - when B gains possession the ball is dead.
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 10:32am
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Is there a limit on the number of times a team can decline the illegal procedure penalty one the kickoff when the kicking team is intentionally kicking out of bounds?
I'm not sure what you mean. If a free kick goes out of bounds untouched by R, R has three choices:
1) 5 yard penalty, rekick.
2) put the ball in play 25 yards beyond the previous spot. (normally R's 35 yard line).
3) put the ball in play at the out-of-bounds spot. (declining the penalty)

So you can decline the penalty every time K kicks out of bounds, but you're only going to get the chance to do that once per kick.

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If a turnover occurs on a two point conversion can the defensive team return the ball for two points?
No. The ball is dead on a try once Team B gains possession.
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 10:34am
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I'm not sure what you mean. If a free kick goes out of bounds untouched by R, R has three choices:
1) 5 yard penalty, rekick.
2) put the ball in play 25 yards beyond the previous spot. (normally R's 35 yard line).
3) put the ball in play at the out-of-bounds spot. (declining the penalty)

So you can decline the penalty every time K kicks out of bounds, but you're only going to get the chance to do that once per kick.
I was told by an official that the receiving team could only make the kicking team rekick twice.
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I was told by an official that the receiving team could only make the kicking team rekick twice.
I have no clue what rule they are using to support that comment.
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 11:06am
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Well, THAT was the rule THAT night! right rut?
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 11:43am
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I have no clue what rule they are using to support that comment.
I agree that no rule specifically limits rekicks to 2.

9-9 permits officials to invoke the "unfair acts" provision if they judge that a team is making a travesty of the game.
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 12:04pm
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I was told by an official that the receiving team could only make the kicking team rekick twice.
That was the old NFL rule covering onside kicks out of bounds. It was never a high school rule.
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Well, THAT was the rule THAT night! right rut?
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 02:28pm
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No - when B gains possession the ball is dead.
Except in Texas and Massachusetts, of course.
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I was told by an official that the receiving team could only make the kicking team rekick twice.
Was this possibly a discussion about onside kicks going out of bounds?
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Thumbs down Unfair Act??? Surely you can't be serious

If an official were to involk the Unfair Act for a repeated Free Kick out of bounds, such official should drive home, write a thank you letter to your commisioner, and retire.
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 05:35pm
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If an official were to involk the Unfair Act for a repeated Free Kick out of bounds, such official should drive home, write a thank you letter to your commisioner, and retire.
Considering the clock doesn't run until the kick is touched in bounds by R, and the kick isn't being touched at all, and it's got to be set up again and re-kicked, and the clock isn't moving AT ALL!
I could see how he might think it's unfair to him!
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 11:40pm
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I have no clue what rule they are using to support that comment.
Wellllll...there was a rule in the 19th Century that if you kicked off out of bounds, the other team then kicked off...and if each team did that twice in succession, then the original team K would scrimmage.
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