Rule Reference Question - OPI on try

[IMSports007]

Quick question.

Try... OPI on offense.

Do we mark off any yardage on the kickoff. A has lost the right to replay the try with the loss of down penatly.

Where can I find reference to this in the rulebook?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by IMSports007

Quick question.

Try... OPI on offense.

Do we mark off any yardage on the kickoff. A has lost the right to replay the try with the loss of down penatly.

Where can I find reference to this in the rulebook?

CANADIAN RULING:

OPI on a convert:

If the attempt is good, cancel the score and re-try the convert from the previous spot (15 on the KO) or from the previous spot minus 15 yards (regular KO).

If the attempt is NOT good, put the 15 on the KO. No option to re-try the convert.

[jTheUmp]

I doubt you'll find any specific reference to OPI-on-a-try in the rulebook, but it hardly matters.

Think about it: If you have OPI during a try, the following scenarios can occur (assuming NFHS ruleset):
1) OPI, try is converted.
2a) OPI, try is not converted. Team B accepts the penalty.
2b) OPI, try is not converted, Team B declines the penalty.

In #1, Team B will obviously accept the penalty, 15 yards + loss of down, thus ending the try.
In #2a, Team B accepts the penalty, 15 yards + loss of down, thus ending the try.
In #2B, Team B declines the penalty, thus ending the try.

Notice that #2a and #2b are, for all intents and purposes, identical.

[IMSports007]

Yea... i got that info...

Is there any way the OPI becomes a succeeding spot on a try where we would go to the kickoff and mark off 15 on the offense?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by IMSports007

Yea... i got that info...

Is there any way the OPI becomes a succeeding spot on a try where we would go to the kickoff and mark off 15 on the offense?

No. The penalty includes loss of down so the try is unsuccessful. There is no rule provision for enforcing OPI from the succeeding spot.

[IMSports007]

Thanks Welpe...

Is there any reference to this in the rulebook?

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by Rule 10.4.5

ART. 5 . . . The basic spot is the succeeding spot:
a. For an unsportsmanlike foul.
b. For a dead-ball foul.
c. For a nonplayer foul.
d. When the final result is a touchback.

Is OPI one of these types of fouls?

[ppaltice]

Originally Posted by IMSports007

Thanks Welpe...

Is there any reference to this in the rulebook?

Best thing to do in these cases is to go to the Case Book.

Rule 8-3-4: If during a successful try, a loss of down foul by A occurs, there is no score and no replay.

Rule 8-3-6: If during an unsuccessful try, a foul by A occurs, the penalty is obviously declined, the results of the play stands and there is no replay.

Case 8.3.2.C: During a try, A1 passes complete to A2 in the end zone and (b) A4 interfered with B1. RULING: In (b), the loss of down foul by A4 dictates that no points are scored, and no replay.