"Hand grenade" Celebration

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

So not being able to pray or point to god after a touchdown is more proof we are doomed as a country? You guys need to reevaluate what you are thinking.

Who said America was doomed? Doomed implies a guarantee. What was said was "trying". Big difference.

I'm saying that America isn't as good as it was 15 years ago. And 20 years before that. And...

When was it at it's best? Not sure, but it certainly isn't 2010.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I'm saying that America isn't as good as it was 15 years ago. And 20 years before that. And...

I suppose it depends on who you ask. I would disagree 100%. There are countless things that are better now than 5, 15, 35 years ago. Ask someone who believed anything different than the norm (or looked different) if they thought things were better in 1975 than now. I'm sure you'd get a flat NFW.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I suppose it depends on who you ask. I would disagree 100%. There are countless things that are better now than 5, 15, 35 years ago. Ask someone who believed anything different than the norm (or looked different) if they thought things were better in 1975 than now. I'm sure you'd get a flat NFW.

The gap between have and have-nots in America (and Canada) is bigger than ever before. A record number of people in the US are living in poverty. Education is at a very low level. The housing market is in shambles.

And all of this applies to Canada, too. Canadians have a record amount of debt, and our unemployment rate is rising.

Cuba is opening their doors to free enterprise, after admitting that Communism (at least their brand of it) no longer works, and hasn't for quite some time. It won't be tomorrow, but give it some time and you'll see more US jobs lost - and going to Cuba.

Maybe the reference to specific years (1995 and 1975) aren't the best, but both US and Canada have not continually moved forward for a better society in recent times.

[bigjohn]

All because we can't praise God after a TD!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!

Maybe it is the lack of prayer in school!

[Welpe]

Oh gee Tanner, NOW look what you've started!

I'm going to blame grunewar for this as well and he probably hasn't even read the thread! Maybe I'll throw Snaqs in there as well.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I'm going to blame grunewar for this as well and he probably hasn't even read the thread! Maybe I'll throw Snaqs in there as well.

I finally read this long thread and I agree!

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

All because we can't praise God after a TD!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!

Maybe it is the lack of prayer in school!

John, it's not about "praising God after a TD". It's about making a spectacle out of how you might choose to do it. I suspect God is just as appreciative of a sincere, private expression of praise and thanks, without a lot of showmanship, maybe even more.

[bigjohn]

I was being sarcastic! I have been on that side of this whole tread!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Who said America was doomed? Doomed implies a guarantee. What was said was "trying". Big difference.

I'm saying that America isn't as good as it was 15 years ago. And 20 years before that. And...

When was it at it's best? Not sure, but it certainly isn't 2010.

America was better 20 years ago? Don't you live in Canada? Stick to Canadian rulings please.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

America was better 20 years ago? Don't you live in Canada? Stick to Canadian rulings please.

Peace

No.