I am fine with "you" doing that...that is "your" line in the sand. My line is just a few miles right of yours.

I think you're taking this backward. The religious act as stated is obviously choreographed, and not spontaneous... That doesn't (in my book) make it illegal ... so it's not the choreography or lack of spontaneity that makes the first post illegal - it's the fact that he involved teammates in this choreography.

I kind of thought we were mostly in agreement until this one. How does my line differ from yours?

What if he simulates a nuclear weapon instead of a hand grenade? Where does the insanity end? :D

c. Any delayed, excessive or prolonged act by which a player attempts to
focus attention upon himself


9.5.1 SITUATION C: B1 intercepts A1’s pass and returns it 95 yards for the goahead
score. After entering the end zone, B1 (a) does a series of back flips, or (b)
runs toward his team box, then stops and struts back and forth in front of this
team’s fans. RULING: An unsportsmanlike foul in both (a) and (b), penalized from
the succeeding spot. The touchdown stands.

How is either the grenade toss (without the teammates involved) or the Look at me I'm Religious showboat either delayed, excessive, or prolonged?

Here's where I see a problem...

Sitch A: player does what Welpe says, mimes the creation and detonation of a nuclear weapon, taking about 10-12 seconds. We're ALL going to flag this.
Sitch B: player kneels down and prays for 10-12 seconds. Who is going to flag that? It's obviously prolonged. The ref that flags that is more likely to get reprimanded after the fact than told he did the right thing.

And that's just wrong.

Question. Does the celebration include the process to enrich the uranium or are we assuming that was already done on the previous down?

10-12 seconds... I'm thinking it must have been done in advance, perhaps in the huddle.

Definitely needs a flag then. There was malicious intent. Possibly flagrant.

If it involves a centrifuge, we probably have a 1-3-7 violation. :mad:

a. Baiting or taunting acts or words or insignia worn which engenders ill will.
NOTE: The NFHS disapproves of any form of taunting which is intended or designed
to embarrass, ridicule or demean others under any circumstances including on the
basis of race, religion, gender or national origin.

9.5.1 SITUATION A: In the process of scoring a touchdown, A1: (a) holds and
waves the ball overhead the last 10 yards; or (b) after crossing the goal line, he
momentarily raises the ball overhead, but then quickly drops it to the ground.
RULING: Unsportsmanlike conduct in (a), but no foul in (b).

Could the finger pointing be taunting?

It doesn't, just trying to lighten the mood a bit. :)

+1

I would say if the player drops to he knee and points up to his God quickly it would fall under letter (B)...thoughts?

He isn't pointing he finger at anyone...just skyward.