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The craziness of youth ball - FG Attempt, no - TD!
NCAA rules. 4th down and goal from the 5, 6th graders lined up for a FG (rushes and fakes are allowed here for 6th grade.) Snapper snaps the ball right into his left leg, ball rolls to the RB (not the holder). Snapper turns around, RB hands him the ball, he goes back to his position and puts the ball on the ground ready to snap it again. No one rushing. My partner (yes, just 1 partner) heads toward his sideline, I'm heading toward mine. Kicker yells "HOLD ON - Don't Snap it!!!" Center stands up, ball is on the ground by itself, kicker runs up and whispers to the center, who gets back on the ground with the ball. Kicker yells "Ready!!!" and the center (nearly untouched) sprints 5 yards forward for the TD.
Let me tell you, I've had some fun conversations with coaches (and one-sided "conversations" from parents) - but this one took the cake. So not happy this happened to my sideline! The team that scored this ended up winning by 1. Have to say ... kicker must be a future referee. |
And you had no fouls? How about forward handing?
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How about an illegal snap:
7-3-4 a snap.... the ball immediately leaves the hand of hands of the snapper and touches a backfield player or the ground before it touches an A lineman. When the ball hit the snapper's leg could you have had an illegal snap? |
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And I see nothing in 7-1 that would have made this snap illegal. |
Oops. 7-2-4
In your play the ball struck a lineman (the snapper in the leg) before it hit the ground or a back. |
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Ok. Here are two reasons why the play should have been disallowed. The first is stronger, in my opinion.
(1) 7-2-5. When the center put the ball down to talk to the kicker, it was at rest with no player attempting to gain possession - dead ball. (2) 7-1-7. When the back handed the ball forward to the snapper, he has advanced (see 2-8-1) a planned loose ball and he is obviously in the vicinity of the snapper. |
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2 is just wrong. You can't call this a planned loose ball - it was VERY clear that there was nothing planned about this. |
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Comment about kicker being a future referee: spot on!
The key to your OP is 6TH GRADERS. Everyone gave up on the play. The ball came to rest. Blow it dead because the ball came to rest. B's ball. A complains. So what? On what grounds does A's coach have a leg to stand on? Snap happened. Snap was botched. Ball came to rest. If A's coach is going to lose sleep over something like this then I want to be his cardiologist. I'll be rich! |
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One thing I've definitely learned over the years though - you find yourself reaching deeper into the book at peewee than at varsity - peewee is where all the TWP's happen. |
I don't know if I'm more perplexed that the play went as it did, or the fact that there's youth football using NCAA Rules....never heard of that.
Is this common place anywhere else? |
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