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bisonlj Mon Dec 28, 2009 05:54pm

When there is a mess of players and lots of activity going on it's entirely possible for one of the officials to not see a specific punch. Kind of hard for him to miss direct contact with his own body with only one player involved in the middle of the field. That doesn't excuse any missed punches in the games you mention but it may help you understand it.

jjrye22 Tue Dec 29, 2009 04:00am

How anyone could argue that it was not intentional is beyond me.
The BJ was pointing (I would assume telling him to go to his sideline) and the player slapped the BJs hand - very similar to how my 3 year old does when I tell her to do something she doesn't like.

ajmc Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:11am

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Originally Posted by jjrye22 (Post 646569)
How anyone could argue that it was not intentional is beyond me.
The BJ was pointing (I would assume telling him to go to his sideline) and the player slapped the BJs hand - very similar to how my 3 year old does when I tell her to do something she doesn't like.

That phase of life, where a daughter will quietly accept being told to do something she doesn't like, usually ends at about 3 yrs old. Good luck.

johnnyg08 Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:32am

He charged the official...you can't imagine what came out of his mouth, then waved his hand contacting the official...this is an EJ. Good Call.

JasonTX Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:11pm

Charging the official like that should have been 1 flag. Contacting him would have been the 2nd. Player is ejected and both 15 yarders marked off.

JugglingReferee Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:53pm

Contacting an official like that after running 30+ yards is an EJ in any league.

Texas Aggie Wed Dec 30, 2009 02:38pm

He slapped at the hand. No brainer ejection.

Its one thing to get a bit close, lose your balance or accidentally brush an official, but this was contact that was intentional. Even if he didn't actually intend to make contact with the official, he fully intended to make the slap.

umpirebob71 Wed Dec 30, 2009 04:21pm

I get bumped all the time working the middle. I'd like to think none of them were on purpose.

jjrye22 Mon Jan 04, 2010 03:15am

They probably weren't, but sometimes...
Ends of last season there was a video posted for a high school game where a safety went FAR out of his way to tackle the U in the back during one of the last plays of the game (he was upset that their team didn't get into a playoff or something and wanted to take it out on the crew).

JRutledge Mon Jan 04, 2010 06:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 646292)
This is not baseball, softball, or basketball. No flag for that.

And that is the problem with football officiating (mentality) if you ask me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by umpirebob71 (Post 647051)
I get bumped all the time working the middle. I'd like to think none of them were on purpose.

I am sure that is the case as I get bumped sometimes. But I do not have players running several yards at me to argue a call either.

Peace

insatty Wed Jan 06, 2010 06:09pm

I agree with the UNS and the EJ. But I wonder about the no-DPI call. It looks like a classic hook and turn. I can't tell if pass was uncatchable. Did Stokely have a point?

ajmc Wed Jan 06, 2010 06:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by umpirebob71 (Post 647051)
I get bumped all the time working the middle. I'd like to think none of them were on purpose.

Getting "bumped" is an inherent part of the job of Umpire and goes with the territoty. Knowing the difference between getting "bumped" and being "hit" is an absolutel necessity. It's the same difference between being bumped and being assaulted.

Considering all levels of football, getting ejected from an NFL game is probably the most difficult environment to be disqualified from. Despite the reluctance to disqualify NFL players, this instance was a no-brainer.

procivil Sun Jan 10, 2010 02:30pm

Clearly Intentional
 
When a player runs 30 yards to confront an official, any contact that occurs from that point, to me, should be ruled intentional. Good call on the ejection.


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