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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 10:50am
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I was at the game, and went to the restroom right after this sequence. They had the UNC play-by-play audio playing in over the speakers in the restroom.

The UNC guy was stating that the UNC coaches were talking to the officials, "educating them" on their formations so they will stop erroneously flagging them for illegal formation. I think the crew was Big East or Conf. USA maybe, and the radio guy stated that they probably didn't see sophisticated formations like UNC runs in the ACC.

Pure comedy!
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 04:25pm
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I was at the game, and went to the restroom right after this sequence. They had the UNC play-by-play audio playing in over the speakers in the restroom.

The UNC guy was stating that the UNC coaches were talking to the officials, "educating them" on their formations so they will stop erroneously flagging them for illegal formation. I think the crew was Big East or Conf. USA maybe, and the radio guy stated that they probably didn't see sophisticated formations like UNC runs in the ACC.

Pure comedy!
The ESPN crew was fixated on the line during the replays and kept saying they thought the TE was on the line, so what was the problem?

Too bad they missed the man in motion on the left side on every replay.
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 05:15pm
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yeah at first the 3 broadcasters counted up the 5 in the backfield on replay and said, "I guess that's a good call."

but then they looked at the freeze frame and Bob Griese had a strange epiphany when he noticed that there was a TE on the end of the line....he then went on to say that butch davis had a legit complaint. (in griese's mind, I guess it'd be ok to have TE-C-TE on the line and 8 guys in the backfield.)

after a noticeable pause, Chris Spielman said "Yeah, but even if the tightend is on the line, you still can't have 5 guys in the backfield, right?"

This must've blown Griese's mind, because there was no answer given.

I don't rip the tv guys when they don't know the rules. it's not their job to know them. but it is pretty funny sometimes. especially when the referee specifies 5 men in the backfield; the tv guys count up 5; but still they wonder if the crew got it right.
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 06:53pm
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We call an illegal formation an a team and the coach yells give me a number and I say you had 5 men in the backfield coach and he looks right at me and says I don't have a number 5 on my team
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 09:10pm
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I don't rip the tv guys when they don't know the rules. it's not their job to know them.
It isn't? What's their job, just to talk for 3 hours?
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Old Tue Dec 29, 2009, 11:00am
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It isn't? What's their job, just to talk for 3 hours?
Some of the rules aren't always easy to understand or comprehend if you aren't studying them on a regular basis like good officials do. I would never expect the announcers to know all of the rules or completely understand the ones they do know. I just wish they wouldn't question an official's judgment or rules knowledge. When I watch other sports I know I don't know the rules as well as the guys on the field/court so I assume they know something I don't know. Announcers could do themselves a huge service by thinking the same way. I like how the announcing crew has an official in the booth with them during bowl games to help explain rules or applications.
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Old Tue Dec 29, 2009, 01:08pm
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Some of the rules aren't always easy to understand or comprehend if you aren't studying them on a regular basis like good officials do. I would never expect the announcers to know all of the rules or completely understand the ones they do know. I just wish they wouldn't question an official's judgment or rules knowledge. When I watch other sports I know I don't know the rules as well as the guys on the field/court so I assume they know something I don't know. Announcers could do themselves a huge service by thinking the same way. I like how the announcing crew has an official in the booth with them during bowl games to help explain rules or applications.
When they are in a position where they essentially tell people what to think, they'd better know what they're talking about.

People always tell me about calls in games and after they describe it, they always say "The announcer said it was a [good/bad] call." So, the general public values their opinion over the official's, so they'd better get a little more educated.
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Old Tue Dec 29, 2009, 02:41pm
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When they are in a position where they essentially tell people what to think, they'd better know what they're talking about.

People always tell me about calls in games and after they describe it, they always say "The announcer said it was a [good/bad] call." So, the general public values their opinion over the official's, so they'd better get a little more educated.
The general public is stupid.
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Old Tue Dec 29, 2009, 06:20pm
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When they are in a position where they essentially tell people what to think, they'd better know what they're talking about.

People always tell me about calls in games and after they describe it, they always say "The announcer said it was a [good/bad] call." So, the general public values their opinion over the official's, so they'd better get a little more educated.
Exactly. And that's why I wish they wouldn't comment on a call being good or bad since they don't know the rule. The problem is they don't know that they don't know the rules. If we all think back to before we started officiating, we thought we knew the rules too but we really didn't. Many of us were fed the wrong information by announcers.
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Old Tue Dec 29, 2009, 04:42pm
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It isn't? What's their job, just to talk for 3 hours?
It isn't their job to know the rules. Their job is to talk with the hopes of making the game more interesting to the viewer and therefore creating higher ratings.
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Old Tue Dec 29, 2009, 07:38pm
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after a noticeable pause, Chris Spielman said "Yeah, but even if the tightend is on the line, you still can't have 5 guys in the backfield, right?"
You can in Canada.

UNC= University of Northern Canada
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Old Tue Dec 29, 2009, 09:06pm
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UNC/Pitt crew really earned their paychecks

Honestly, this crew should have some pay docked. Bad calls both ways, but the worst were no calls, especially the center "head bob" on the game winning drive. Bu rule the center can move his head, but nothing like the PITT center did to simulate the snap with the sole purpose to draw the defense offsides. If you dont have the nuts to make the correct call with the game on the line, hang up your whistle.
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Old Tue Dec 29, 2009, 11:45pm
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Honestly, this crew should have some pay docked. Bad calls both ways, but the worst were no calls, especially the center "head bob" on the game winning drive. Bu rule the center can move his head, but nothing like the PITT center did to simulate the snap with the sole purpose to draw the defense offsides. If you dont have the nuts to make the correct call with the game on the line, hang up your whistle.
You are joking, right?
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You are joking, right?
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Screen name is Go Heels.
Complains about North Carolina losing.

He sounds completely impartial to me.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 09:29am
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Honestly, this crew should have some pay docked. Bad calls both ways, but the worst were no calls, especially the center "head bob" on the game winning drive. Bu rule the center can move his head, but nothing like the PITT center did to simulate the snap with the sole purpose to draw the defense offsides. If you dont have the nuts to make the correct call with the game on the line, hang up your whistle.
Fail.
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