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Old Wed Sep 02, 2009, 02:10pm
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True, you'll have to stop the clock to adminsiter any penalty, but if the R feels they are doing it to conserve time illegally, then he could run it on the ready. Personally, I'd probably go with whatever the clock was doing at the time of the foul unless time in the half is running out & A is trying to score.
Hitting them for 15 on this seems awfully onerous.
Right, but a failure to wear required equipment foul comes with 3 signals and one of them is a delay of game signal so you start on the snap. I agree the R could go on the ready but you've then also taken time to explain to the R why he needs to go on the ready which also gives them time to reorganize. I don't think there's much you can do about this and it's probably an isolated incident. I like the idea of the wing explaining he undid it himself and he needs to go out for a play.
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Old Wed Sep 02, 2009, 03:05pm
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Right, but a failure to wear required equipment foul comes with 3 signals and one of them is a delay of game signal so you start on the snap. I agree the R could go on the ready but you've then also taken time to explain to the R why he needs to go on the ready which also gives them time to reorganize. I don't think there's much you can do about this and it's probably an isolated incident. I like the idea of the wing explaining he undid it himself and he needs to go out for a play.
Yeah, but you'll still have to stop things to send him out, make the explanation why he's going out, and wait for a sub to come in. You end up giving them just as much time for them to get organized but they really don't pay any price for it other than taking out 1 player for 1 play. I guess I'd rather have them pay up 5 yds and move along.
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Old Wed Sep 02, 2009, 08:52pm
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This is one of many things team B could do to prevent a quick play, possibly a scoring one, by A. I think you have to look at it and decide how badly B is beaten if they let the ball be snapped.

I think decades back someone in the office at either Fed or NCAA, when I was visiting them, said that in such a case no more than a standard penalty for USC would be justified, not an open ended unfair act equitable penalty. Which if it's true means a player of B who realizes in time what's going on can buy the prevention of a likely score for the price of a USC. The most reliable way, if they're close to the ball, would be for such a player to simply fall on it, because then officials couldn't just ignore it as they could with an encroachment "you didn't see", etc.

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Old Wed Sep 02, 2009, 09:36pm
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It is not unsportsmanlike conduct it is hindering by using a tactic that is not really forbidden by rule.

9-9 is perfect and if the R feels a 15 penalty and start the clock and run ten seconds off he has rule support to do that.
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