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Originally Posted by Bullycon (Post 623699)

When recording the yardline, we also note how far the point of the ball is from the next hash. It's not exact, but I don't think the location changes any more than when the umpire spots the ball on an inbounds spot based on the foot of a wingman in the side zones.

If it's close to the line to gain, we'll use the chains to measure the exact spot, similar to moving the ball from a side zone to the inbounds spot after a measurement.

This reminds me of a funny scene from a preseason scrimmage about a month ago. The only lines on the field were the boundary lines, goal lines, 20s and 50. Yet, the format called for regular series-based possessions. Once, it was close enough to require a measurement. Fortunately, the ball was very close to the 20. The referee noted that the point was exactly one foot length from the 20. He then ran over to the sideline, noted the line to gain was half the length of his foot from the 20, and signaled first down for team B. It was the most unique measurement I've seen.

Same stuff for us at our scrimmages. Except we had no chains at all. So anything close was a first down. Nobody said a word. I wondered if we could do that in the regular season. :D

I think it is interesting that most of you who have mentioned it say you flip the ball then set the chain and clip if it is first down.

I go the other way. Set the chains and clip, then flip and set everything based on the clip. We have some horribly marked fields however, so maybe it is a local thing, but I think the chances of the U being off are greater than of the chain.

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Originally Posted by jjrye22 (Post 623726)

Interesting.

When the quarter ends with a 1/10, we take the ball to the other end and have the chains line up on the ball. I am careful to note yardline for ball so it's properly placed at the other end. But my R and U are experienced and are careful to set the ball properly. If the ball is set, then the chains can lined up on the ball and all will be well. If we've had penalties however, then I'm a lot more diligent on making sure everything is properly clipped when switching ends just to be safe. I think it's possible to overdo things just like it's possible to underdo them.

My crew in a summer provincial game had the interested case of an end-of-quarter situation with a measurement.

On the last play of the first quarter, the LJ had progress (outside the hash marks) to which we had to measure to see if a first down was earned or not. (It was not earned.) Our measurement mechanics employ a checks and balance system so that if any one mechanic fails, there is a fallback method to redo all of the previous decision with 100% accuracy.

The cool thing was I was working with two rookie side guys, and they both nailed the transformation from 1Q to 2Q!

I like JJRye22's point. Especially in the scenario laid out in the original post.
With 16 seconds left in the quarter the chains are set in case some coach wants to run one more play before the quarter ends. If they do not, why simply reset the chains at the other end? Flip the chains just like you would under any other end of quarter situation and you have a check on what the R and U are doing with the ball.