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Old Sun Jan 11, 2009, 01:23pm
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That is hard to understand. Can you give a better example including what foul would have been called?
There was a discussion of that here a while back -- that Fed had an illegal contact rule against potential receivers. I hadn't been aware of it until I read it here.

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Can you quote this rule?
Not right now, but the wording was approximately that the restriction on B continute "until the runner demonstrated no further intention to pass".

[quote]I'm fine with that. In every game I have ever seen it has been common for teams to pass on 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down no matter where they are located on the field as well as during tries. So every scrimmage down the entire game would be a passing situation.{/quote]
And I've seen kicking on all downs, so we're even.

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If it is such a terrible thing then how come it works perfectly in NCAA games?
It's just a matter of the number of teams playing under the different codes. It took many years before the A-11 was concocted; it's just a matter of time in NCAA, now that the gentleman's agreement that was apparently understood at the time the numbering exception has passed from everyone's memory.

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Old Sun Jan 11, 2009, 02:01pm
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There was a discussion of that here a while back -- that Fed had an illegal contact rule against potential receivers. I hadn't been aware of it until I read it here.
I don't understand how what formation a team uses has anything to do with illegal use of hands fouls.

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And I've seen kicking on all downs, so we're even.
In every game teams pass on all downs. How many thousands of games does one have to watch to see a team punt on first down? We're not even.

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It's just a matter of the number of teams playing under the different codes. It took many years before the A-11 was concocted; it's just a matter of time in NCAA, now that the gentleman's agreement that was apparently understood at the time the numbering exception has passed from everyone's memory.
I don't know what you are talking about. The A-11 is not legal in NCAA rules. Even Kurt Bryan knows that.
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2009, 08:35pm
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I don't understand how what formation a team uses has anything to do with illegal use of hands fouls.
I was trying to show how using the same logic as the judgement call you so blithely want to introduce, other rules could be made judgement calls too, and migh produce more equitable results in some cases, but the resulting uncertainty still wouldn't be worth it.

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