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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 12:21pm
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They Pull off the "Hook and Ladder"

A high school semi-final game I did last Friday had a team down by 5 points on the last play of the game.

They attempted the hook and ladder and pulled it off for the touchdown.


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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 12:29pm
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Boy does 12 take some getting used to. Just looks wrong.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 01:44pm
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Hook and lateral, not hook & ladder, unless the receivers were responding to a "fire" call.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 02:31pm
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Hook and lateral, not hook & ladder, unless the receivers were responding to a "fire" call.
Hook and lateral - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia gives legitimacy to both terms.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 02:43pm
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I've always heard both. I think the derivation is from hook (the route the receiver runs) and lateral (what happens after that), but in the way that terms in our language often get corrupted (or run through Cockney slang translators), it has become "hook and ladder" as that is an already-accepted phrase in our vernacular.

Speaking of that, here's probably the most famous instance of that play:

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why 12?

What league/state that allows 12 players and why did they do that?
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 03:20pm
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What league/state that allows 12 players and why did they do that?
Canadian football. 12 players on a 110 Yard field.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 03:33pm
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What league/state that allows 12 players and why did they do that?
Actually 11 players and the tiny U.S. field was because Harvard did not have enough room on their field for the proper size Rugby pitch and so 100 yards with 10 yard end zones and 11 players was born!
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A high school semi-final game I did last Friday had a team down by 5 points on the last play of the game.

They attempted the hook and ladder and pulled it off for the touchdown.


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Who was that signally the TD on the 8 yard line? :-)
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 03:41pm
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Actually 11 players and the tiny U.S. field was because Harvard did not have enough room on their field for the proper size Rugby pitch and so 100 yards with 10 yard end zones and 11 players was born!
A nice bit of trivia
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 03:55pm
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Who was that signally the TD on the 8 yard line? :-)
That wasn't me.

I was signaling the TD on the goal line as the BJ.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 04:05pm
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That was far from a hook and whatever you want to call it. 5 backward passes on the last play of the game. And the second one was almost caught with a knee down.

So do Canadian rules only state that the teams must be dressed differently and not one in a colored jersey and the other in white? It wasn't hard to tell them apart but maroon and bright red on the same field looks odd to us southerners. It was like seeing Nebraska play Texas A&M both in home uniforms.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 04:22pm
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That was far from a hook and whatever you want to call it. 5 backward passes on the last play of the game. And the second one was almost caught with a knee down.

So do Canadian rules only state that the teams must be dressed differently and not one in a colored jersey and the other in white? It wasn't hard to tell them apart but maroon and bright red on the same field looks odd to us southerners. It was like seeing Nebraska play Texas A&M both in home uniforms.
You must remember that the budgets for high school football in Canada are vastly different than in the U.S. There are not too many high schools with two sets of uniforms. So we must deal with uniforms that could look similar.

The Canadian rule book does not specify that the schools must wear different colours.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 04:23pm
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That wasn't me.

I was signaling the TD on the goal line as the BJ.
Then since you have had exposure to WWCFOA and the other official presumably has not, I can only assume that it was your proper WWCFOA exposure that had you using proper mechanics.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 05:36pm
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Then since you have had exposure to WWCFOA and the other official presumably has not, I can only assume that it was your proper WWCFOA exposure that had you using proper mechanics.
Actually I credit it to the HFOA training meetings and clinics, something WWCFOA lacks.

Forced evaluations can only go so far until you actually have to train your members.
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