Wrong Ball Play

[daggo66]

Originally Posted by Warrenkicker

Our rule definitions say that if a movement with the ball is not forward then it is backward. This ball movement was not forward so it had to be backward.

References? What about "up". The center cannot lift the ball up and then snap it back. In the video he comes up and turns sideways to hand the ball back. "Up" is not forward, but it is certainly not backward either.

[Warrenkicker]

Originally Posted by daggo66

References? What about "up". The center cannot lift the ball up and then snap it back. In the video he comes up and turns sideways to hand the ball back. "Up" is not forward, but it is certainly not backward either.

Well we probably won't agree. He stood up and in one motion took the ball from the ground to the QBs hands. The ball never went forward. "Up" is not a direction that we care about. Backward or forward we do care about. If it isn't moving forward then it is moving backward. Those are the only two directions we have. And I could see your point about "up" if the snap changed directions while in the snapper's hands. I don't see an up then back, I see an up and back movement.