Oh brother!!! :rolleyes:

Peace

*correction: they can grade the calls, how to grade the non calls? it is possible but the percentage and consistency gets mucky.

You should know the post was tongue and cheek and worded in the best homer language I could come up with.

It happens all the time. I highly encourage you to obtain Matt Sumstine's videos from the Aloha Clinics. In these videos, he highlights numerous plays that at first blush look like penalties but after further examination, they really aren't. He will often comment something along the lines "Good no-call, that is a block from the side, not the back." etc.

A good no call on a possible hold would be passing on something such as a slight jersey tug that did not impede the defender, or a hold far away from the point of attack.

Seth, "wizarding" is when you send the DE to the Washington Wizards for a season. Duh. :p

Common errors are still just that.

I just checked with an NFL official I know. Interior linemen are not allowed any more than 1 yard beyond the line of scrimmage before any pass is thrown (behind or beyond the neutral zone). They are not allowed to block until the pass is caught but they give them a little leeway with this. So if you are seeing this and it isn't being called, someone's getting dinged. :)

REPLY BBR...unless I'm mistaken, in NFL rules, linemen are restricted to their side of the neutral zone even on passes that don't cross the LOS.

I'm sorry, but there are so many things you say in these series of posts that are just rediculous. Here are some or your highlights.

For whatever reason the Viking organization commit’s a penalty on nearly every play. Neutral zone infractions by 3 out of 4 defensive lineman are common place especially in or near the red zone. Recently they feel the popularity of Adrian Peterson gives them the right to steer defenders by grabbing the shoulders. I have no idea what justification they have for hooking (wizard - ing) defensive ends on passing plays. I don’t know why they have been allowed to do this routinely. They have no incentive to stop because they get caught less than 1 out of 10 times. The Packers naturally have to somehow compete with these unfair advantages often by committing a few infractions in the spirit of fair play. The officials UNDER-officiated the Vikings which led the game to deteriorate into near chaos.
This whole post is just silly.

I was under the impression plays with passes behind the LOS are technically runs. Hence screens, jailbreaks, shuffle passes, etc.
Wrong.

They really can't grade offensive holding calls. I know it’s difficult if not impossible to do. The term “it happens on every play” is a term for a reason. The point is they push it and influence the play.
If this was the case, how would they ever grade R's or U's in the NFL or D1?


They can grade the calls, how to grade the non calls? it is possible but the percentage and consistency gets mucky.
They know exactly what to look for on holds, and are shown plays in their meetings every year that are prepared by their supervisors.

Are you sure you're not talking about a whizzer?

You implied that it was impossible for them to miss a lot of holding calls based on them being reviewed by people that have watched a video?

Not exactly.

NFL officials are very good at what they do. I read somewhere that they get about 98.5% of their foul call/no call situations correct.

So our options are to believe you, the random guy who says a lot of fouls went uncalled, or to believe that the officials got the vast majority of them correct as they always do.

They don't miss many. I have 12 DVD's from NFL official I know and many of them have voiceover by the supervisor. They will show 10-15 plays and say if they want that to be called holding, and why or why not.

ok. so do they say this isn't holding because he didn't gain advantage and things like that?

Yes, that is one thing. Some other examaples are
- it is not at the point of attack, although they don't make that mistake often
- the defender did a rip technique, so he put himself in that position
- it is a double team, so no hold unless they take him to the ground
- the hold occurred the same time as a sack was occurring