BYU - Washington

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Dave Parry discussed the call and backed the official. But Dave probably shouldn't be allowed to talk on TV. He kept saying "...in the official's judgment" which ESPN took apart after he got off the air.

But he did point out that video has been sent to all coaches across the country showing exactly this type of play, and other plays as well.

To be fair to the Dave, he made very clear that the official was in position and saw the entire play. He also said that you cannot split hairs with whether the ball went 10 feet or 15 feet as was suggested by the Reece Davis tried to suggest on the telecast. I think all Dave was trying to make clear that this was a judgment call and that it fits the rule. And ESPN quoted the rule and gave a specific reference to throwing the ball in the air. Now if anyone is stupid that is Lou Holtz which clearly tried to add crap to the issue by saying he does not see players drop the ball or hand the ball to the officials. Then again, he did coach at Notre Dame, so I understand why he is stupid in the first place.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think all Dave was trying to make clear that this was a judgment call and that it fits the rule.

Problem is the PAC-10 referee used opposite langauge, saying that it is not a judgment call, that they have to flag it by rule. They just weren't on the same page.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Problem is the PAC-10 referee used opposite langauge, saying that it is not a judgment call, that they have to flag it by rule. They just weren't on the same page.

Well it clearly is a judgment call. Just because the information was covered and the rules were clear, does not take judgment out of the call. I honestly hate it when I hear people claim certain plays like this are not judgment calls. I would rather take the NCAA Coordinator's point of view on this, then what a conference says. And the ESPN people were too stupid to make that kind of nuance point anyway.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well it clearly is a judgment call. Just because the information was covered and the rules were clear, does not take judgment out of the call. I honestly hate it when I hear people claim certain plays like this are not judgment calls. I would rather take the NCAA Coordinator's point of view on this, then what a conference says. And the ESPN people were too stupid to make that kind of nuance point anyway.

Peace

You're wrong on two things.

1- The referee made the statement that it wasn't a judgment call, not the conference. He was correct. It's automatic.

2- The ESPN guys did indeed jump on it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

You're wrong on two things.

1- The referee made the statement that it wasn't a judgment call, not the conference. He was correct. It's automatic.

Well the NCAA Coordinator is a little bit more involved in these things than a crew that is hired by a particular conference.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

2- The ESPN guys did indeed jump on it.

I saw the conversation again, and Reece did not jump on it or focus on the contradictions to make a point. The conversation was more about the officials used bad judgment because of what time of the game this took place and the game is supposed to be fun. They hardly mentioned the contradiction in language.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

You're wrong on two things.

1- The referee made the statement that it wasn't a judgment call, not the conference. He was correct. It's automatic.

Well, it really is a judgement call since they have to judge how much is "high". If it had gone 6 inches over his head, I doubt there would be a call or even any discussion about a possible call. At some point it becomes too high and unless they're got a specific height and a way to measure it on the field, it will remain a judgement call.