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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 04:10pm
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Luckily the officials do not attend media day so we will be spared of some ignoramus question like “how long have you been a black referee?”

As I stated on the other topic, I think he has some of the best signals and verbal communication in the game.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 10:25pm
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Luckily the officials do not attend media day so we will be spared of some ignoramus question like “how long have you been a black referee?”
The Doug Williams story is apocryphal.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 11:22pm
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Luckily the officials do not attend media day so we will be spared of some ignoramus question like “how long have you been a black referee?”

As I stated on the other topic, I think he has some of the best signals and verbal communication in the game.
This has to be the post of the week for me.

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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 11:37pm
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I want all to know, I do appreciate Mike Carey's accomplishment, and I recognize that this forum is of officials, for officials and by officials. My post was simply as I stated a rant regarding an inappropriate shift of emphasis.

I worked a basketball game a few years ago with a gentleman who was also to sing the national anthem before the game, and while he was a very talented vocalist, I just like to keep the attention off the officials and everything about them, from voice to color.

I believe the best officials in the business do not have names, and do their entire job without anyone knowing they were there.

That is all I am saying.
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 03:29am
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I want all to know, I do appreciate Mike Carey's accomplishment, and I recognize that this forum is of officials, for officials and by officials. My post was simply as I stated a rant regarding an inappropriate shift of emphasis.

I worked a basketball game a few years ago with a gentleman who was also to sing the national anthem before the game, and while he was a very talented vocalist, I just like to keep the attention off the officials and everything about them, from voice to color.

I believe the best officials in the business do not have names, and do their entire job without anyone knowing they were there.

That is all I am saying.
That sounds great but those days are over. From the internet, to TV to fellow officials, the days of the anonymous official are over. First of all people can recognize officials. And with all these TV stations covering every game imaginable, even if you wanted to keep officials in the background, people will know who they are. You are going to tell me people are not going to recognize Dick Beavetta in the NBA? Or and Ed Hoculli in the NFL? Or at Joe West in the Majors? Or an Ed Hightower and Lisa Mattingly at the D1 Basketball levels? It is not going to happen. I have even been recognized when I work local games and I did not say a word. There is too much media, video tape and internet sites dedicated to knowing who worked where and when. I heard this information about Carey on the radio while driving to a game. Maybe that was a good thing years ago, but knowing who the people are adds credibility to the contest if you ask me. People know who has worked big games in the past and they know who can handle them in the future. You are not going to get that Genie back in the bottle again. It is just not going to happen. We definitely talk about it here. What do you think the fans talk about when they see certain officials?
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 11:14am
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he has some of the best signals and verbal communication in the game
Who? If you are referring to Carey, you are obviously joking.
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 01:31pm
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Who? If you are referring to Carey, you are obviously joking.
I do not think he is joking, and I agree that R 94 Carey has among the best signals in the NFL.

Right now, I think there are *many* strong Referees in the NFL. To be selected among them is quite an accomplishment. I think that in the future, R 85 Hochuli will replace Pereira.

I also think that R ?? Steratore will be among the top NFL Referees ever. Parry and Boger are showing that they'll have fantastic careers as well. With R 77 McAulay and R 42 Triplette and R 99 Corrente, imho, the officiating in the NFL will be superb in the years to come.
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 02:02pm
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I think that in the future, R 85 Hochuli will replace Pereira.
He will not replace him. He will lift up the building in New York in which Pereira works and shake it until he falls out.
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Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 02:29pm
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I do not think he is joking, and I agree that R 94 Carey has among the best signals in the NFL.

Right now, I think there are *many* strong Referees in the NFL. To be selected among them is quite an accomplishment. I think that in the future, R 85 Hochuli will replace Pereira.

I also think that R ?? Steratore will be among the top NFL Referees ever. Parry and Boger are showing that they'll have fantastic careers as well. With R 77 McAulay and R 42 Triplette and R 99 Corrente, imho, the officiating in the NFL will be superb in the years to come.
A lot of what goes into being a good R is the communication factor when using the mic. Good clear voice that's easy to understand. IMO Steratore is one of the best on the mic. Carey tends to leave you in suspense, sort of a delay in giving the direction of the fouling team. Something like, "Holding, #25 (delay) Defense..." No complaints about that as it adds a bit of mystery to which way he's going to signal.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 06:25pm
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Who? If you are referring to Carey, you are obviously joking.
Correct me if I am wrong, but when Carey points to the team on which there is a foul, it looks like a big karate chop.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2008, 09:39am
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Correct me if I am wrong, but when Carey points to the team on which there is a foul, it looks like a big karate chop.
I thought y'all were joking earlier in this thread about how great his signals look...come on...he has the least professional signals I've seen in the NFL. He may have good judgement and speak clearly, but I've seen HS officals look crisper with their on field signals than Carey.
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