Gaylord Bowl

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by secondregionbug

The crew did a good job except they talked to Bobby B way tooooo much. The Fla team did not miss much with the players that were on the grass they played a hell of a game and this should give them a good start for next year once they get rid of all the cheaters.

I do not quite agree with that. The ball was dead after a score, I do not see any problem with the officials explaining why this was called.

Also it appeared the Bobby B's claim was that this has not been called very much. Well for one you have a different set of officials calling the game then he likely saw most of the year (unless they played a Big East School at some point during the year). And I have seen this called many times when appropriate and sometimes when it is not appropriate. And there is nothing wrong with diving into the end zone when someone is chasing you or when you are trying to clearly avoid a tackle. Talking to Bobby B at that time made sense if he was claiming this had not been called before. We just saw a day later this was called.

Peace

[MJT]

Dive with someone around you to get in the EZ, fine. Dive with no one within 5 yards or so, flag. Flip anytime, unless to jump over a pile or someone, USC everytime.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by MJT

Dive with someone around you to get in the EZ, fine. Dive with no one within 5 yards or so, flag. Flip anytime, unless to jump over a pile or someone, USC everytime.

Every time? I am not so sure about that. That is always going to be a judgment call.

Peace

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

So "nyah nyah, I'm gonna score on you" is that much worse than "nyah nyah I scored on you?"

Yes. You just have to imagine yourself in an opponent's place. Hard to convey the psychology. More accurately, it's, "Nyah, I'm gonna score on you. Or maybe I won't. Yes, I think I will." The other one is, "In case you didn't notice, I scored on you."

Robert

[MJT]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Every time? I am not so sure about that. That is always going to be a judgment call.

Peace

But when would the flip, without going over a defender, not be just for show? I agree it is a judgment, but I don't see when my judgment wouldn't be to flag a flip if not over a defender.

[Reffing Rev.]

I would love to see the rule changed to make this foul happen the moment the player left the ground, before the touchdown and take away the score, that would nip it in the bud wouldn't it!

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I would love to see the rule changed to make this foul happen the moment the player left the ground, before the touchdown and take away the score, that would nip it in the bud wouldn't it!

Excellent idea. They stop at the 1 foot line to do the flip, so now we're going back 15 yards from there and starting over. BRILLIANT!!!

[Mike L]

I would rather just give the defense the option of enforcement on the kickoff or on the try.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Excellent idea. They stop at the 1 foot line to do the flip, so now we're going back 15 yards from there and starting over. BRILLIANT!!!

No. I always hate the idea of a non-tactical foul's being penalized tactically. If there were some other way to punish USC, such as spanking, that wouldn't affect the game, that'd be preferable. As long as yardage is going to be the penalty, it should bear as little cx as possible to the tactical situation, because so did the foul. What sense does it make to try to determine the spot of the foul for a foul that has nothing to do with place on the field? Why should doing a flip on the 1 foot line result in any different spot from doing it on the 10 yard line? What if someone commits USC in the coach's box close to the 50 yard line, 40 yards behind the end of the run?

At one time certain distance penalties caused the line-to-gain to move so that the distance to gain remained the same. I think USC should go back to that kind of enforcement.

Robert

[Reffing Rev.]

I wasn't exactly serious. But I do seriously despise these showboating tactics in the endzone and would love to see something more than just a 15 yard penalty on either the try or the kickoff. I remember watching the Rose Bowl game and almost every touchdown had a 15 yard penalty following it and Pete Carroll couldn't care less. Maybe something like Fed basketball, where dead ball usc fouls are indirectly charged to the coach and after 3 he leaves the game. Not exactly serious, just venting about how much I dislike flipping and all other end zone celebrations.