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jimpiano Sat Dec 29, 2007 05:50pm

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Originally Posted by TXMike
How can you say there was no dispute, the R flagged it initially as IG? Are you even a football official?

The flag was picked up.

jimpiano Sat Dec 29, 2007 05:53pm

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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch
So it's possible next year we could see a review after every play just to make sure there wasn't a penalty on the play? I mean, where will this stop?

And maybe they could get the e-flat trumpet in the band for being off key?

TXMike Sat Dec 29, 2007 05:54pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
The flag was picked up.

Yes it was and if you are watching the Liberty Bowl you saw IR used to review a fwd pass or not situation there also. In the UT game, IR could have chosen to review the play to see if it may have been a fwd pass or not.Just wondereing how it is that you seem to know so much about what IR is or is not permitted to address?

kdf5 Sat Dec 29, 2007 06:06pm

I don't want instant replay used to look for fouls but in this particular case a coach or team attendant or glorified stepson or whatever he is was on the field and probably (or maybe didn't) touch the ball! You have a significant problem when that happens.

Someone said something about a blended foul and it seems to me that's what happened. I have two questions:

1. Why wasn't this illegal participation instead of a USC?

2. If this was an USC, why didn't TX keep the ball? Isn't an USC a succeeding spot foul?

jimpiano Sat Dec 29, 2007 06:16pm

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Originally Posted by TXMike
Yes it was and if you are watching the Liberty Bowl you saw IR used to review a fwd pass or not situation there also. In the UT game, IR could have chosen to review the play to see if it may have been a fwd pass or not.Just wondereing how it is that you seem to know so much about what IR is or is not permitted to address?

The OP was about the Holiday Bowl. The flag was picked up so any IR reference to that is irrelevant.

The replay was nothing more than a fishing expedition and a travesty of the game.

Any official who has to put up with this crap ought to get hazard pay.

BktBallRef Sun Dec 30, 2007 09:35am

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Originally Posted by TXMike
How can you say there was no dispute, the R flagged it initially as IG? Are you even a football official?

Mike, he's one of those guys who's only purpose here is to stir up $hit about officials. Look at his posts. That's all he does.

jimpiano Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:18am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Mike, he's one of those guys who's only purpose here is to stir up $hit about officials. Look at his posts. That's all he does.


No. I am here to learn about the rules and why, in some cases, they are ignored.

TXMike Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:17pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
No. I am here to learn about the rules and why, in some cases, they are ignored.


You are not going to learn enough by hanging out on an internet discssion board to ever appease you or to make you truly understand the rules and how the game is officiated. This is arguably the most complex sport to officiate in the world and anyone who tries to read the rulebook as back and whiyte is going to have serious problems. Why not join up with your local football officials and REALLY try to learn the game?

jimpiano Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:30pm

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Originally Posted by TXMike
You are not going to learn enough by hanging out on an internet discssion board to ever appease you or to make you truly understand the rules and how the game is officiated. This is arguably the most complex sport to officiate in the world and anyone who tries to read the rulebook as back and whiyte is going to have serious problems. Why not join up with your local football officials and REALLY try to learn the game?

I don't, for a second, denigrate the amount of work and study needed to be a good football official. ( I would argue that the baseball rule book is much more difficult to master, but that is another matter)

I think today's college and pro officials are the best the game has ever produced. I just wish the administrators would let the game be in the hands of the officials, not the TV cameras.

LeRoy Sun Dec 30, 2007 03:47pm

Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by cmathews
he is a pretty good official, when he is a fan he is an OSU Cowboy fan...


Thanks ... GO BIG 12:)


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