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Old Tue Nov 20, 2007, 09:32pm
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Yup-we beg coaches for film or a DVD. Few are cooperative, some are indifferent, and there are those that think we want to analyze something they might be doing illegally and flat out refuse.

I quit bringing blank VHS tapes and mailers years ago because they didn't come back.

I've mentioned writing something into our next contracts with the schools. Several heads nod but nothing beyond that. Like everything else here, it wouldn't happen unless the state mandated it.
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Old Tue Nov 20, 2007, 11:49pm
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Yup-we beg coaches for film or a DVD. Few are cooperative, some are indifferent, and there are those that think we want to analyze something they might be doing illegally and flat out refuse.

I quit bringing blank VHS tapes and mailers years ago because they didn't come back.

I've mentioned writing something into our next contracts with the schools. Several heads nod but nothing beyond that. Like everything else here, it wouldn't happen unless the state mandated it.
We still get tapes on about 30% of our games but they aren't always helpful. The camera only follows the ball (and sometimes not so well) and the quality is so grainy it's hard to see specifics. It is also so far back that you can't clearly holding in the middle of the line or something in front of the runner. They also only show snap to end of down so you miss anything that happens between plays. My favorite though is hearing comments by the cameraman or others around him. I wonder if they realize we sometimes get copies.
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Old Wed Nov 21, 2007, 12:20pm
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We ask, we get.
Had a coach this year send both an EZ view and the sideline view (digital!!) to show us the numerous illegal blocks we missed. Went frame by frame in both views and saw one. Guess that block was worth the 22-point margin of defeat.

Have had coaches refuse until season over so we don't share their secrets with other teams. Why are football coaches so paranoid.
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Old Wed Nov 21, 2007, 12:32pm
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We ask, we get.
Had a coach this year send both an EZ view and the sideline view (digital!!) to show us the numerous illegal blocks we missed. Went frame by frame in both views and saw one. Guess that block was worth the 22-point margin of defeat.

Have had coaches refuse until season over so we don't share their secrets with other teams. Why are football coaches so paranoid.
It's in the job description. Look in the dictionary under "rat."
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Old Wed Nov 21, 2007, 01:43pm
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The very first association I was a part of did have film of every game worked by the 4 crews we had, and we did review them at least bi-weekly. We took a camera man with us and our own video equipment, and with a little training actually got great officiating films. Sons and fathers of crewmates make good cameramen. And that was the best association I have ever been a part of.
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Old Wed Nov 21, 2007, 01:45pm
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THAT would be righteous.

I have a 14-year-old, maybe I can train him.
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Old Fri Nov 23, 2007, 01:03am
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In my bag I keep at least one blank recordable DVD within a self addressed padded envelope. If I see someone recording the game, on the field or up in the press box, I will ask them if they will burn a copy for me. It costs me about $2 per for the DVD, package and postage.

It's that simple. This year I was able to hand out 4 DVD's. All but one of them was useful since the guy kept stopping and starting the camera.
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