Indy/SD

[tjones1]

Ouch...IW on a big play...

[JugglingReferee]

I don't know about that one, Tanner.

When the IW went, where were the SD players? Could you say for certain that NO SD players stopped playing because of the IW, and that the IND player still broke tackles and made it as far as he would have.

In fact, the possibility exists that the IND player may have ben tackled (by SD player(s) that gave up when the IW went) before the 20, in which case the IW actually helped IND.

[johnnyg08]

What do you mean JR? In the NFL even if the players stop for a very short amount of time, the NFL is so fast, the IW is a major issue here...this should never, never, never happened in the NFL...YIKES!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

What do you mean JR? In the NFL even if the players stop for a very short amount of time, the NFL is so fast, the IW is a major issue here...this should never, never, never happened in the NFL...YIKES!

He did not say the IW was acceptable. He is saying that it is very likely the whistle allowed San Diego players to stop and not properly pursue the play. So it is possible that IND would have never had such a long return as was first suspected.

All I know is the BJ was all over the play and clearly had a catch. I do not think he was the one that blew the whistle. I am not sure why anyone else would have done that.

Peace

[Bob M.]

REPLY: I agree with JRutledge that it certainly was not the BJ (Steratore) that blew the whistle. He was right on the call in perfect position.

[reddevil19]

I was at the game. On the IW, it had to have been the SJ (Barry Anderson) because the play was to that side of the field (same side I'm on). You definitely heard the whistle, and someone must have started to (or appeared from the press box high on the opposite side) give an incomplete pass signal, because the PA announcer said, as the ball was being advanced out of the End Zone, "Pass is incomplete." Those on San Diego still playing after the whistle basically stopped at that point. The BJ then started looking at the SJ and FJ and they all stopped.

The play certainly qualifies as one of the most bizarre I've ever seen.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I don't know about that one, Tanner.

When the IW went, where were the SD players? Could you say for certain that NO SD players stopped playing because of the IW, and that the IND player still broke tackles and made it as far as he would have.

In fact, the possibility exists that the IND player may have ben tackled (by SD player(s) that gave up when the IW went) before the 20, in which case the IW actually helped IND.

Great point. But I'm not sure, just hate it they had one.

[Johnny Ringo]

What about the end of the game false start on Indy on the 4th down play ... was that the proper call?

[MJT]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

What about the end of the game false start on Indy on the 4th down play ... was that the proper call?

I guarentee that call will be backed up by the league. I know they have been talking about that one.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

What about the end of the game false start on Indy on the 4th down play ... was that the proper call?

That's a judgement call I could not argue with (even as a Colts fan). This is just semantics but it wasn't "false start" but "simulating a snap". He was just shifting but his movement was very similar to what he would do at the snap. He should have been more fluid. I think they could have have let it go but I don't have any issues with the call.

Overall...what a crazy game from an officiating standpoint. I think they did fine overall other than the killer IW. I'm not sure who did it but it was a huge mistake. They owned up to it right away and enforced it correctly though. The change on the spot was correct as well. Polian was on the local news saying he would not call the league office because he didn't think he could behave himself.

[OverAndBack]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

That's a judgement call I could not argue with (even as a Colts fan). This is just semantics but it wasn't "false start" but "simulating a snap". He was just shifting but his movement was very similar to what he would do at the snap. He should have been more fluid. I think they could have have let it go but I don't have any issues with the call.

None at all.

To me, that's situational officiating right there, too. It seemed to me that the Colts only lined up in a normal formation on that play specifically to try and draw the Chargers off. In that case, you've got to be extra, extra careful that you're not the team that flinches first. And when you put a guy in motion (or shifting, whatever he was doing) and then a tight end JERKS up as you would at the snap, well, I'm sorry, I'm nailing that one right there. ***** all you want.

The IW, I was listening on the radio and Dave Sims said that there hadn't been a whistle (initially) and I said to the person in the car with me "I thought I heard a whistle?" Turns out I had.

Of course it shouldn't happen. But it does. I felt so badly for the whole crew. Having blown an IW or two in my career (as I'm sure most of us have), no one in the stadium feels worse about it than we do.

Originally Posted by bisonlj

Polian was on the local news saying he would not call the league office because he didn't think he could behave himself.

Bill Polian is absolutely crazy as a sh!thouse mouse to begin with, and it pains me that this nutjob has a Super Bowl ring, but it is what it is.

Did he not call Peyton Manning's house last night because he couldn't contain himself about the six frigging interceptions the guy threw?

The call was correct, IMHO. And Polian hasn't stopped whining and *****ing even though his team won the frigging Super Bowl. Give it a rest.

[BigGref]

I hate this play, I would like it to be called FS (or simulating the snap) every time, but it seems that in every other exact same situation in the NFL, NCAA, most NFHS, that it is not called False start. In Varsity Fed they better darn sure that tell us they have this play in their repertoire, a little heads up would be nice as well. I have seen it called both ways mostly in Fed, but NFL seems to never call it. Consistency is all I ask for. (anyway how can vander..., I mean Vinateri miss a 29 yd chip shot like that, I understand the rushed 42 yder a little bit) Anyway the ref from Indy is done venting (they shouldn't have won anyway with the way they played, tape session will not be pretty, or the trainer's room).

[TXMike]

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Upon further review...I realize my confusion, return got to the 7, it did not start at the 7.