Carryover fouls

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by wwcfoa43

Note that unlike UR/RP, Objectionable Conduct will only carry over to the next quarter and cannot induce a KO in the same quarter.

Tx. Editted my OP.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Tx. Editted my OP.

Might want to "editt" this post, too.

[Robert Goodman]

Can they carry over a last-play football foul from the 4th period to basketball season?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Can they carry over a last-play football foul from the 4th period to basketball season?

Some leagues do have suspensions that carry from the end of one year to the beginning of another. I wish school-related sports had this policy.

[Reffing Rev.]

We had a lengthy conversation about this at our local meeting this year with the change.

Here is how it was explained by the interpreter present.

Live ball fouls against the defense on successful scoring plays, touchdown, field goal, or PAT. Can always be enforced at the succeeding spot. New this year was added the option after a touchdown to enforce the penalty on the ensuing kickoff (8.2.2)

The interpreter said that the ensuing kickoff assumes a kickoff will follow as a result of the score.

Live ball foul by the team allowing a touchdown with time left in the half: enforcement options include live ball enforcement, succeeding spot enforcement (PAT) or kickoff enforcement. When touchdown is scored with no time left in 1st or 3rd quarter, and penalty is enforced on kickoff, the kickoff is still part of the 2nd or 4th quarter (period not extended for the penalty enforcement)

Live ball foul by the team allowing a touchdown with no time left in the half (when there is not an ensuing kickoff): enforcement options include, live ball enforcements and succeeding spot enforcement (PAT). Cannot carry penalty to second half or to overtime.

Live ball foul by the team allowing a field goal or successful PAT enforcement options are live ball enforcement, or succeeding spot enforcement. Succeeding spot enforcement (when succeeding spot is in 2nd half or overtime) can include in essence carry penalty over. Succeeding spot enforcement never extends a period.

Dead ball foul by a team allowing any score is always enforced on the succeeding spot, which would be the PAT after a touchdown, if the PAT is attempted. And the period is never extended for a dead ball foul.

[Sonofanump]

IMHO. 8.2.2 should be expanded next year to include USC and dead ball PFs.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Some leagues do have suspensions that carry from the end of one year to the beginning of another. I wish school-related sports had this policy.

Some states do this. If a person is ejected from their last football game, they must sit out the first contest of the winter sport season whether it's basketball, wrestling, or whatever they participate in.

Some states just "overlook" the ejection if it was in the last game of the season. I disagree with that, as it's unfair to those who had to serve a suspension during the season.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Some states do this. If a person is ejected from their last football game, they must sit out the first contest of the winter sport season whether it's basketball, wrestling, or whatever they participate in.

Some states just "overlook" the ejection if it was in the last game of the season. I disagree with that, as it's unfair to those who had to serve a suspension during the season.

Darn, I hate it when there are serious answers to my flip joke. I was looking for, "Yeah, a free throw starting the 1st basketball game to enforce a personal foul at the end of the last football game. But if it's an illegal hold, that has to carry over to the 1st wrestling match."

Robert

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Darn, I hate it when there are serious answers to my flip joke. I was looking for, "Yeah, a free throw starting the 1st basketball game to enforce a personal foul at the end of the last football game. But if it's an illegal hold, that has to carry over to the 1st wrestling match."

Robert

I think you're funny, Robert.

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Darn, I hate it when there are serious answers to my flip joke. I was looking for, "Yeah, a free throw starting the 1st basketball game to enforce a personal foul at the end of the last football game. But if it's an illegal hold, that has to carry over to the 1st wrestling match."

Robert

Heh, I'll play nice now. How about...coach, your USC as we were walking off the field will be enforced as a T at the beginning of your first basketball game which I am scheduled to work? LOL.