Fair catch question

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by sj

Do you mean to say that:

a) you have seen R1 give a get away signal like this, without recovering the ball, many times at the D1 level and it's always been a no-call?

b) you have seen R1 give a get away signal like this, and then recover the ball, many times at the D1 level and it's always been a no-call?

Both: yes.

grant brings up an interesting point though. i can't seem to recall if the ball was in the air or bouncing when the poison call was given. but yes, i've never ever seen a penalty called for this infraction at the D1 level.

[grantsrc]

Originally Posted by bossman72

but yes, i've never ever seen a penalty called for this infraction at the D1 level.

Because it is not a foul. It is simply a violation for lack of a better term.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by grantsrc

Because it is not a foul. It is simply a violation for lack of a better term.

Now that i think about it more, i don't think i've ever seen the poison signal given, then have the ball caught in the air. The ball has always been bouncing come to think of it. So, that's why there's no "violation".

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bossman72

Now that i think about it more, i don't think i've ever seen the poison signal given, then have the ball caught in the air. The ball has always been bouncing come to think of it. So, that's why there's no "violation".

What Grant is saying is that an invalid fair catch signal is not a penalty in NCAA like it is in High School.

Reading the original post by jt and then MJT's response in which he included Redding's quote, if you weren't going to flag for invalid fair catch, would you have unsportsmanlike conduct? I'm thinking along the line that the signal would have caused the punt team to freeze and not play the ball, therefore being "suckered" by the returner.