Unsportsmanlike Conduct Question

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by reddevil19

JC = Junior College. I did start out doing PA for HS JV games 13 years ago as a sophomore in high school after the regular guy got ejected one day.

REPLY: Robert...he said so here.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by reddevil19

JC = Junior College. I did start out doing PA for HS JV games 13 years ago as a sophomore in high school after the regular guy got ejected one day.

Ack! Missed that post entirely until someone else pointed it out, thanks. Junior College. In that case, not such impressive facilities.

I was so paranoid that others have better facilities than us that I hadn't even considered that possibility for what the "C" stood for. I was thinking Junior Chamber of Commerce.

Robert

[Mike L]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Actually even if it was a typo, I'm still somewhat impressed by a HS JV having a night game.

Robert

In San Diego, CA the JV game is usually right before the V game. Yeah, that's right, we do JV/V doubleheaders almost every Friday. Some of the schools run the JV right after school lets out, so they really are not "night" games (and it also makes for a lovely hour and a half wait between games for the officials), but a lot start at 4:30 or 5:00, so you end up under the lights. And, those schools typically run their freshman programs at that time only on Thursdays, so they'll play the second half under lights too.
As for the little guys, most of them play at the high school fields. Only a few will play games under the lights, but some do.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Actually even if it was a typo, I'm still somewhat impressed by a HS JV having a night game.

In Eastern Washington, we frequently had JV games start as late as 6pm. But even starting at 5pm, it gets dark pretty early up north in the fall, so it ends up being a night game.

Of course now that I am in Western Washington, almost all less than varsity games start very early. And all 7th/8th grade games start at 3:45pm (which is why we are struggling to find officials to cover those games).

[Robert Goodman]

But reddevil19 still hasn't said whether they were JCs or JVs.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by reddevil19

Hello all. I am the PA announcer for a JC football team, and last night we had penalty enforcement that didn't seem quite right to any of us in the box.

On a 2nd down, the defense (home team) sacked the QB, which would have made it 3rd and 17. The sacker however was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. The penalty was enforced, but the down was still 3rd, with 2 yards to go. We all thought that was an automatic 1st down, fairly certain that we have seen unsportsmanlike conducts result in automatic first down's in the past in that situation where the 15 yds wouldn't make a 1st on its own.

Game is played with NCAA rules. Was this correct? Also, is there a difference in High School NF rules? Thanks for your responses.

CANADIAN RULING:

Nor does UC carry an AFD is Canada. UC is called Objectionable Conduct, and is 10 yards tacked on the next play.