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Old Sun Sep 23, 2007, 01:25pm
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Hey Juggling, in Canada if a player goes down on his own, is the play dead (as in college and high school), or can he get up and continue running (as in the NFL). I am asking that to try and make sense of what you are saying about the holder lifting his knee off the ground.
In the Canadian posts I write about, they are regarding the amateur rule. (Maybe some day I can post about CFL rules. ) We have only two rules books: professional (CFL), and amateur (everything else: pop warner, high school, club, community, junior, and NCAA-level).

The amateur rule is that "once you're down, you're down", that is, a player cannot get up and continue. The CFL rule is that of the NFL.

There is an exception to the amateur code that a place kick holder can possess the ball with a knee on the ground and not be dead, for the only purpose of holding the ball for the kicker. If the holder has to rise to catch a bad snap, he may legally go back to a knee for his holding duties for the kicker. And even in this case, he may rise that knee again if he wishes to throw and hand-off the ball.

It's quite easy to remember actually: The holder can do whatever he wants, but he:
  • must lift the knee to throw or hand-off the ball
  • can go to a knee at any time to hold for a place kick
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Old Sun Sep 23, 2007, 01:38pm
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The amateur rule is that "once you're down, you're down", that is, a player cannot get up and continue. The CFL rule is that of the NFL.
But, last I knew, the Canadian amateur rules had more exceptions. You could go to one or both knees and the ball remain alive if to recover a bouncing or rolling ball from:
  • your own team's snap, or
  • an opponent's kick (except a dribble),
provided you got up again immediately.

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Old Sun Sep 23, 2007, 01:44pm
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But, last I knew, the Canadian amateur rules had more exceptions. You could go to one or both knees and the ball remain alive if to recover a bouncing or rolling ball from:
  • your own team's snap, or
  • an opponent's kick (except a dribble),
provided you got up again immediately.

Robert
For only the opponent's kick:

It must've changed, then, twice! When I started, and until 2-3 years ago, that exception was not present. It is now back in. In addition, a kick or punt returner can step OOB, legally, for catching said kick. If OOB upon touching, the ball is dead and he cannot advance. If back IB, then the catch is good and may advance.

On an errant snap, you are down if your knees touch the ground with possession.
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